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16:00:38 <janb84> hi
16:00:39 <achow101> #bitcoin -core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dzxzg eugenesiegel fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto hodlinator instagibbs janb84 jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure kevkevin laanwj LarryRuane lightlike l0rinc luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
16:00:41 <hebasto> hi
16:00:44 <TheCharlatan> hi
16:00:53 <vasild> hi
16:00:58 <furszy> hi
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16:01:44 <glozow> hi
16:01:49 <achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
16:02:09 <b10c> hi
16:02:22 <darosior> hi
16:02:30 <achow101> #topic Kernel WG Update (TheCharlatan)
16:02:39 <TheCharlatan> Got some first ACKs on #30595 this week, looking for some more eyeballs.
16:02:42 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30595 | kernel: Introduce C header API by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #30595 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
16:02:50 <TheCharlatan> that's all
16:03:25 <sipa> hi
16:03:28 <achow101> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
16:04:16 <sipa> #33157 got merged, thanks for all the reviews!
16:04:22 <corebot> sipa: Error: That URL raised <Connection timed out.>
16:04:33 <sipa> #33157 got merged, i said
16:04:34 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33157 | cluster mempool: control/optimize TxGraph memory usage by sipa · Pull Request #33157 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
16:04:52 <sipa> that's pretty much all of txgraph in, apart from a few small things which won't block anything
16:05:19 <sipa> the focus is now #33629, which is a rebased, and reduced version of the older 28676 cluster mempool PR
16:05:23 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33629 | Cluster mempool by sdaftuar · Pull Request #33629 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
16:05:36 <abubakarsadiq> hi
16:05:46 <sipa> follow-ups have been split off in #33591
16:05:48 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33591 | Cluster mempool followups by sdaftuar · Pull Request #33591 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
16:05:53 <sipa> Two Weeks(tm)
16:06:06 <instagibbs> :)
16:06:07 <achow101> woohoo
16:06:18 <stickies-v> nice!
16:06:29 <kevkevin> hi
16:06:37 <sipa> sdaftuar and I have also been working on some more simulations with historical and less historical data, to do final benchmarks of performance and optimality
16:06:50 <cfields> hi
16:07:02 <sipa> but i think we're in a really good spot now
16:07:06 <instagibbs> sipa this would effect cluster sizes, and number of conflicting clusters, potentially?
16:07:14 <instagibbs> but otherwise stay similar approach?
16:07:24 <sipa> instagibbs: "this" being what?
16:07:47 <instagibbs> > to do final benchmarks of performance and optimality
16:07:47 <instagibbs> responding to these benchmarks
16:08:15 <abubakarsadiq> are their plans to have an updated bip to 125 indicating the new RBF rules?
16:08:37 <sipa> instagibbs: i think (especially with the prospect of SFL) we'll stick to 64 as max cluster tx count, unless we discover something very unexpected
16:08:57 <sipa> abubakarsadiq: i don't think "non-actionable" policies ought to be BIPs
16:09:10 <sipa> in the sense that they don't really require anyone to be aware of them
16:09:35 <sipa> unlike say TRUC, which aims to provide a specific interface that user software can make use of
16:09:58 <abubakarsadiq> Okay, I saw the replacement docs have been updated so that is okay then
16:10:12 <sipa> speaking of SFL, i'm about to push a much updated version of #32545
16:10:15 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32545 | Replace cluster linearization algorithm with SFL by sipa · Pull Request #32545 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
16:11:07 <sipa> but it's largely orthogonal to the actual cluster mempool PRs
16:11:41 <glozow> heh. after cluster mempool, we implement less than half of BIP 125
16:12:28 <sipa> glozow: it may be worth updating BIP 125 with some color about relevance
16:12:36 <glozow> yep
16:12:38 <sipa> if the authors/champions agree
16:12:40 <sipa> that's it for me
16:13:24 <achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101)
16:13:31 <sipa> it's merged!?
16:13:38 <achow101> #29675 was merged!
16:13:41 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29675 | wallet: Be able to receive and spend inputs involving MuSig2 aggregate keys by achow101 · Pull Request #29675 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
16:13:43 <sipa> woohoo
16:13:46 <glozow> musig to my ears!
16:13:57 <achow101> fjahr opened a followups pr: #33636
16:13:58 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33636 | wallet: Expand MuSig test coverage and follow-ups by fjahr · Pull Request #33636 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
16:14:11 <achow101> but I think this working group is done :D
16:15:00 <achow101> Any other topics to discuss this week?
16:17:38 <achow101> #endmeeting