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      "payload": "Thank for for the reviews and comments so far - what's the overall sentiment, could we include any of these in v30?",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "The rc1 has been tagged, although bins not uploaded yet. Any issues that people have noticed in testing?",
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      "payload": "Yeah, I should have made that clearer: fetching the blockchain has become slower with the older node versions",
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