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      "payload": "The change is only adjusting the already-configurable defaults, but has a measurable effect on a critical part of IBD performance.",
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      "payload": "Could we include it in v30?",
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      "sender": "achow101",
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      "sender": "l0rinc",
      "payload": "reveiw is trivial, basically just a value change, but reproducing it would take a few hours in the background",
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      "payload": "is there any urgency for it to be in 30?",
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      "payload": "no, just a preference since this release already contains 6 other IBD related optimizations",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "i don't think it should go into the milestone, but if it gets enough review before feature freeze, it can still go in",
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      "payload": "and slow flushing is a common complaint, users think the app is frozen",
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      "sender": "l0rinc",
      "payload": "k, thanks",
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      "sender": "l0rinc",
      "payload": "that's it from me",
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      "payload": "#topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)",
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "opened what i think is the last txgraph pr for now",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:12:56.066025+00:00"
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "then time to review cluster mempool PR itselr",
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      "payload": "No updates this week, please review #29675",
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      "payload": "#topic QML GUI WG Update (jarolrod, johnny9dev)",
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      "payload": "was away on family vacation for the last week so getting caught up again. before I left there were a few PRs added for getting the new branch up to the feature set that I have in my personal fork.",
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      "payload": "short term, the focus is just to catch up the send and payment request features",
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      "payload": "another contributor, deer-gee is looking to upstream some events so he can complete his assumeutxo interface as well so that will likely start soon",
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      "payload": "#topic Script Validation WG Update (fjahr)",
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      "payload": "There was some further development on the batch validation secp PR (review still welcome) but it still lacks pippenger support, I will probably wait a bit with rebasing the core PR until that\u2019s the case. That\u2019s it from me.",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/milestone/72",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:18:14.685780+00:00"
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      "id": "3a1811926f6d46adbc39213db066baa1",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Anything to add or remove from the mileston?",
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    {
      "id": "057b2255333b4b9999d521ad21e6ac7c",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "And please review things in the milestone. Feature freeze is in 6 days",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:18:37.266773+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5c41f3f7d6c84d108cfd49b3c8923e2a",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Anything else to discuss this week?",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:20:20.838793+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6b438655674f406ba9fcaef2db88d3e1",
      "sender": "l0rinc",
      "payload": "I have a different question about dbcache: given that we don't have fine-grained cache invalidation (we clear the cache, when full), has anyone investigated if we could reseed it with the past ~10 blocks after clearing?",
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    },
    {
      "id": "f34c99c48d6a44fb9ca0db3f110a386b",
      "sender": "willcl-ark",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:21:24.246923+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "59e5e256070a4f9e8b7ac21e3c858560",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "we don't always wipe completely anymore all the timr",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:21:26.533514+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "605d0ffefbae41e19329b2c24a29a8b7",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it's worth experimenting with, i think",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:21:49.005731+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "26f47f61ead744149eeec96fa5785055",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "also at startup",
      "action": false,
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    {
      "id": "322f44d5a8444892a1cd10af65b095fe",
      "sender": "l0rinc",
      "payload": "yes, we already read 6 blocks for validation at the beginning, we could use those to seed the cache",
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    {
      "id": "d814d524ea4e4e7cb2a2216219d298c4",
      "sender": "l0rinc",
      "payload": "thank you",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:22:21.594024+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5baebf751c9648af9deeb2615a925478",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "I think Sjors[m]1 had a topic to discuss?",
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    },
    {
      "id": "9f1491e108dd438aadf988345881c4a6",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "I don't see it?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:23:49.782547+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2c8e78cbb32d4801ac99c6396f17ef23",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "On mobile, so can't contribute much.",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:23:58.021511+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7628cdf796b64ee1bd118a7da1a15d32",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Basically the request to add to milestone above",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:24:11.701962+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f84de2fa1a2a44e4a858a80eb541df0b",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "Ah, he just threw it out, not specifically for this meeting:",
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    },
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      "id": "2745aa14a94a4094a3d5de91d7571938",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "<Sjors[m]1> I'd like to propose #31802 for the v30 milestone, if only to discuss if it needs to be punted to the next release again.",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:24:17.019966+00:00"
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      "payload": "I'd like to propose #31802 for the v30 milestone, if only to discuss if it needs to be punted to the next release again.",
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      "sender": "corebot",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31802 | Add bitcoin-{node,gui} to release binaries for IPC by Sjors \u00b7 Pull Request #31802 \u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:25:06.635432+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cee2833e1da84fd5bd407c93a1a6c8a3",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "my very 10000-mile view: i think it'd be nice if we had IPC enabled in from-source builds by default for a while before we add it to releases",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:25:22.192707+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3f4255241a534f0fbf263544acbf6b78",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "does it need to be in this release?",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:25:54.474639+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c34303efa12b4a709d0c1b45f4e7825c",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Although that makes sense the only people who currently want to test this prefer binaries over source builds.",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:26:06.956246+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "8280575acb524746927b381b0d3270c1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Sjors[m]1: that's a good point",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:26:21.362550+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "49209597fb6c4baf826218d4d524b833",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "I agree with sipa",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:26:31.748997+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1aae09cf294b48409e17de36a2b02fec",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "And if I have to keep shipping a custom build anyway then I probably won't use the IPC variant because it's extra complexity.",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:26:59.753419+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c691cf8711234177ab68f1b689e743ba",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Compared to just integrating sv2 directly.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:27:15.679736+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "39564bf2c8fd4d19b2ca7597e6cd081f",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "So not sure how much we'll learn from waiting another six months.",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:27:32.963401+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "22bef67791e544128abe87e1c791d830",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Sjors[m]1: that seems like a false dichotomy; over time, i do expect we'll add it to release binaries",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:27:59.055921+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d56b4a5b9797473da4c4323542e0a17f",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Though maybe I'll ship a v30.0 + IPC patch binary myself.",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:28:10.926160+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "487b9a25060e4a5c97012c1537bd6c69",
      "sender": "stickies-v",
      "payload": "\"The initial main use case for IPC is to enable experimental support for the Mining IPC interface.\" this doesn't seem like a very strong reason to ship ipc binaries imo, i don't think we should rush it in",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:29:02.135926+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fb638e05f2e84e0ea23d0e23b62f9833",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "pinged Russ, fwiw",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:29:14.315754+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e9c97d9639504cddaf9a988c6310f3cb",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Compared to six months ago it does seem much likely that eventually this will make it in, meaning that me maintaining an IPC binary won't be a dead end.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:29:41.600743+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "df41520c7a1a495e92ecac7249577051",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i also agree with thr view that we'll likely not learn that much if the use case is primarily people who want binatoes",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:29:54.426879+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "*binaries",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:29:57.430856+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d080c2d0879d4b4d8223abc1981bada9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "so, not opposed, but it feels rather unusual compared to how usually do thong",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:30:20.079006+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "169f3ea76dbc44d1ba62709076ef2eee",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "things",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:30:23.083896+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "52dc1a563d4d43c194a71cbe19df2b1a",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "Not sure I understand why it's extra complexity to ship the IPC binaries When it's either guix build 1 branch, or the other, to produce bins?",
      "action": false,
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    },
    {
      "id": "76eef1d3b0594a2aa7dcb638b429fa73",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "Trying to catch up. I've open #31756 months ago to ask for feedback on this but haven't gotten much",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:30:47.837811+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "corebot",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31756 | RFC: Adding bitcoin-{node,gui} binaries for IPC in 30.0 release \u00b7 Issue #31756 \u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:30:49.842179+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "aa2903a4c6334cf0a9642a69f72f0fa0",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "Would appreciate if people weigh in with any concerns there",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:31:24.325062+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d0d3bacf641f4273ab28eb6fe7b5650d",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "fanquake: having to explain people to use / trust my binaries adds friction.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:32:17.151603+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f1e04ad7951445e2b1ce04b07f6a897e",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Once they overcome that friction, I might as well ship a modified bitcoind that has the whole Template Provider built in.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:32:43.534363+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4619b24b12c64996a2d070e6b84dee7e",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "Can you elaborate on who these people are? Any reason they aren't showing up on GH to champion / review any of the related PRs etc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:32:45.290920+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "842ef3f34335459494b41f4651c27f8f",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "So they don't have to bother with IPC.",
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      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:32:50.503451+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5ae879b112114683ab5569f8521c1f5c",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "Or show up to the meeting to advocate for it's inclusion into Core",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:32:56.949186+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "91ead454a46047ab9a2ef2677b147502",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Do they have to send an open letter? :-)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:33:12.071473+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "3d920bb6a6f74042ac6065da56c01981",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "Sjors[m]1, I'd be nice if they commented on 31756",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:33:23.569257+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "4855bfd2556a474a802ed68b27080b21",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "https://github.com/Sjors/bitcoin/issues/98",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:33:25.664829+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "93ebb61955fd48af95d7687e5efcfd4a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Sjors[m]1: haha",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:33:31.408271+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "8749ba57dd7f4d738f6a61b9e27f67cd",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "^ they report bugs directly to me mostly",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:33:31.975415+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c186f325e37a46808d04064e0328da8d",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "SRI folks are generally not familiar with our codebase.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:33:52.914654+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9e0835a9f3d44e04bbcaf02b8c89f624",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Pavlnex left a thumbs up on 31802",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:34:22.283239+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c5bf6ebaf86141c68162eb4ec15ac247",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "#31802",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:34:35.789833+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "corebot",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31802 | Add bitcoin-{node,gui} to release binaries for IPC by Sjors \u00b7 Pull Request #31802 \u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:34:38.795621+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c5472e9eb9b84e7091927bee18944c0a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "ah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:34:41.344010+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d5655b5c04e643b7b0b6866e324f1af7",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "I think my point is more that you clearly already have a relationship with your existing users",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:34:59.516791+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d9db9e6fadc341b48629a1f6b35e0515",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "So it seems like you building the bins doesn't actually add much friction, if they are already trusting your software to begin with",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:35:26.051564+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bdb22cdb18ec4cc794ee91a9539a36d3",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "I don't know how far that trust goes though.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:35:44.650142+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "707f13105b084ec986473f7f30ad7160",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "For testing, sure.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:35:52.857323+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5d7d89d152e5409b910e2bc81699391f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Sjors[m]1: agree",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:35:57.909493+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "45a1a36570174d859fccac0bf48f78be",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Mainnet pools? Maybe.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:35:59.316596+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d072ea4d3da647d38b2ff22dfa8d00d1",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Not a position I want to be in once a large amount of money is involved.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:36:16.295751+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2637b7b039bf4a81965a63ab2716e5b4",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "let's try reviewing/commenting on the PR/issue",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:36:45.533469+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6f113b53e3504fb4b30d72565d161fe2",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "can they comment in the pr/issue advocating for it then?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:36:56.439596+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "300ffc57704b4180a2f155e22a434f4a",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "achow101: sure, I'll make a call out...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:37:21.224994+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c8af0c2474414fef9b8a0c605b383b1b",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Any other topics to discuss?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:37:30.304579+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "df5c2b9432df49fb8fa534156dfa5281",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]1",
      "payload": "Maybe they're being a bit too polite and quiet.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:37:31.594708+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f0c66b738b87467aa162fc7b41938e2c",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "I'd also like to hear concretely about what the fears/downsides of releasing this feature are",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:38:31.126910+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1ade2ad6d3bc49b3bca7162d39a51aa9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i don't think there are downsides to doing so, once it's reviewed enough",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:39:00.017264+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cd9e162954b74761a6226eaf9de49f1f",
      "sender": "TheCharlatan",
      "payload": "i've been slow on the ipc review recently, the crash bugs we ran into have made me a bit hesitant over the past few months.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:39:03.433653+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "41b8956582024f8cbc534e44b9fe5e2a",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "Crash bugs?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:39:20.209359+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "777b9fdab98b4766b541e08eed403d4e",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "I started to write a fuzz target for those and got diverted into working on other things.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:40:02.808896+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5198acb711894ca385d93d998533a755",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "Given that i go on vacation in about 2 hours i won't make more progress on that nor review of the PR being discussed, so won't opine.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:41:00.547941+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0ad6359905384b2dbbfce62baf9566a4",
      "sender": "TheCharlatan",
      "payload": "ryanofsky, i.e. https://github.com/bitcoin-core/libmultiprocess/issues/182",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-14T16:41:01.280537+00:00"
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