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      "sender": "dergoegge",
      "payload": "probably #33106 ?",
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      "payload": "i don't see what is relevant to 30 about #33021 or #32975 ? Seems general, and will distract review from more important things?",
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32975 | assumevalid: log every script validation state change by l0rinc \u00b7 Pull Request #32975 \u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:12:58.083661+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1d49071ea0d0457f849c5cfafb04c352",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "darosior: i have a very last minute, possible-even-simpler idea for getting rid of WITNESS_STRIPPED, will either open a PR in the next hour or so, or review #33105",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:13:07.058294+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c5566cf8f9cd4a3bb8ffd41f579a5ce1",
      "sender": "corebot",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33105 | validation: detect witness stripping without re-running Script checks by darosior \u00b7 Pull Request #33105 \u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:13:09.062803+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f6bae8d1ca614ec48cf3f08f019d77d3",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "would be good if it's clearer why #32579 needs to go into 30, or not",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:13:43.510502+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9415247ded8b4b2d858540ad53db9fa8",
      "sender": "corebot",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32579 | headerssync: Preempt unrealistic unit test behavior by hodlinator \u00b7 Pull Request #32579 \u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:13:47.517888+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1d11c5d3c0614ccd9ba78b3c8b3f262f",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "darosior: nice. Feel free to ping me, i'm reviewing stuff for feature freeze today",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:13:57.920566+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "debde3fe49734607a340bca21499ebc3",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "s/darosior/sipa",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:14:10.420733+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "748ef8d74d3f4a33a13019b895f750d3",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "haha",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:14:14.152276+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b171bd07a070490bae6f33a4d331ffb1",
      "sender": "l0rinc",
      "payload": "fanquake: first is a test that was dead for some time and we've modified related code in this release; second is a very common complaint for people that they don't know why IBD is suddenly getting slow.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:15:06.610033+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cdd32f38548f455f92313c5b7b4ff996",
      "sender": "hodlinator",
      "payload": "fanquake: Will look into making it more clear. But essentially the release process will probably bump some values which will make tests cover less realistic behavior. Sorry for the redundancy.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:16:30.369063+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e4d74e13562f4eeb9b4d759cbf540bdc",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "#topic should #33106 be backported before 29.1 is released (darosior)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:18:15.769322+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d093315b487947aba69f3df77d9e2a1f",
      "sender": "corebot",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33106 | policy: lower the default blockmintxfee, incrementalrelayfee, minrelaytxfee by glozow \u00b7 Pull Request #33106 \u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:18:18.775282+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b6f715c7a819494f927298f7492bfb52",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "So it seems like we agree it should be on the milestone for 30, but what do people think of backporting it to 29.1 (currently in rc1)?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:18:47.300803+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "54caa7655b164facbd38251b28b92089",
      "sender": "glozow",
      "payload": "There will be an rc2 fosho",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:19:06.563579+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "220c8b664059462f8367feee1d29db48",
      "sender": "TheCharlatan",
      "payload": "makes sense imo",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:19:18.293598+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e2ac8ed86e9849e3b0483be3334b1463",
      "sender": "Murch[m]",
      "payload": "with such a big portion of transactions being below 1 s/vB it seems reasonable to me",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:19:49.207174+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0e2b888e762d4d1fa84b9a756cbed6a5",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "I initially thought it was too late for .1 and it'd have to go in .2, but maybe that's too much churn for release managers? What do maintainers say",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:19:51.099499+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1fb518a09a2b4174b10b8a6d25ee1e0c",
      "sender": "glozow",
      "payload": "^that was me saying it can go in .1",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:20:08.865276+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "eaced7b4d301414886ee3407bfd1ac39",
      "sender": "Murch[m]",
      "payload": "Should be tested a bit more, though, especially if we not just roll it out to the new release but also backport it",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:20:11.797081+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "171d655cf24d40b4925ca6c5214056f7",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "(I also think it should be backported, that's what i'm bringing it up)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:20:32.803390+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5cf1ff8512f54698b5d2d35973273317",
      "sender": "glozow",
      "payload": "It doesn't seem like something we'd normally backport",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:21:01.923421+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "56cbdadeca14444d8b0f8a559af12b43",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "Murch[m]: yeah, still no review. I've been going through it this morning but definitely needs more eyes to be sneaked into post rc1",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:21:15.841380+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8b71e63ea04e4425b3324ddcb3f264e4",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i was trying to measure how much memory cluster mempool uses per transaction... \"getmempoolinfo\" -> \"usage\": 6217176... that can't be right?!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:21:26.021615+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "564381f649bf4376ae9d36a08a7d888b",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "we don't usually backport features",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:21:42.452744+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fe31ff89a2dc462389ac918667f5aa99",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "this isn't a feature though?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:21:54.252933+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0d22f1b129c840b5ad2b71a38dd6d96f",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "it's fixing compact block relay",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:21:59.919738+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1052f07d0a434927a51636270c32073f",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "if we do backport it to 29, then it should also go to 28",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:22:13.957681+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0a3b52ad83e943c6a03b7ad828c12d88",
      "sender": "dergoegge",
      "payload": "since block relay is degraded, it makes sense to backport",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:22:15.898615+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "626f5bb045cc4409b8d2a9f719cbba2f",
      "sender": "glozow",
      "payload": "I agree it's closer to a bug fix than a feature",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:22:23.248129+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "49519bc742174e348277c8af1e725c74",
      "sender": "lightlike",
      "payload": "yes, an adaptation to changed fee condition, so it's a fix",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:22:24.277386+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5efcaee4878847b4915c12744b8bf233",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "we have treated softfork activations as \"bug fixes\", which is why they tend to be in .1 releases... in the sense that network conditions have changed, and bitcoin core needs to adapt to those",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:22:26.987813+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bcda87c22e834a94b7dd6be90b874b17",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "I guess this boils down to \"how much would backporting it in 29.1 provide a relief for the current network conditions?\" which i gets boils down to whether we expect 29.1 to be out before 30.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:22:40.789498+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "91d22fb062c443128f7d98d5527b1330",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "uptake of minor releases after a major release is made is usually not that high",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:23:11.108664+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e13cb8a3fcce4db5a38fa304cf03dbb2",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "if this pr hadn't come up, 29.1 likely would have been out within a week or so",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:23:18.316060+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1f7735f4df4f45218e848712b569881e",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "and I'd say adoptoin of 29 is currently blocked somewhat, on the existence of the .1",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:23:36.350167+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d3f5155d56ef4c95a435258e3580052c",
      "sender": "Murch[m]",
      "payload": "Also, just a few nodes rolling out with the new mempool policy will probably drastically alleviate the issue for any nodes that upgrade",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:24:00.326773+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "01dfaca2d3fd45e5a7f3650c33684489",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and 29.2, if any, likely comes after 30.0?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:24:04.497892+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a26b54db70ce4255903022b1878cfe0a",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "likely",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:24:19.203658+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "017cafbd8fe445cdac53e09d42efd592",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:24:19.762220+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "91dc14eee86f4e97b6e4756204d7fa59",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "has anyone found any issues with the rc1, in their testing so far?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:25:56.772458+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "23b932aa88e543f4aa60e0b1db0d4120",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think it's not unreasonable to backport a change like this given the network conditions, but whether it's worth doing does seem to depend on the realistic timing of getting the release out",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:26:15.240289+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a4671662a3844936a2848e32c3b7526b",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "fanquake: i haven't, but haven't gone out of my way to try and test edge cases either",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:26:23.214641+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a5d5ae7c166d4cb688a3c0d1ac8a42b0",
      "sender": "jon_atack",
      "payload": "i'll see about updating https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32051, potentially by reducing scope to ibd only, where it was a real issue in my experience, tbc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:27:46.060684+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6c924e4a12ba4878b55dc9c1e42a5b14",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "sipa: I'd think ~4-7 days post backporting it",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:28:03.560150+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fb1d0df5180048ca80cf34af81502478",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "at best 29.1 will be out 2 months before 30, i guess that's not too bad",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:28:04.855337+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7635bfcf3afc41dba9e12d1b5e588ef1",
      "sender": "jon_atack",
      "payload": "29.1 inclusion seems based on review/testing then",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:28:37.839403+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8140aa1c565e4716b20904224548b75b",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "re rc1: it's also not like there is new features to exercise, and i don't run a mining pool to just be able to say \"didn't break my operations\" \ud83e\udd37",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:28:41.088274+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d6eb577bf5764b328e68ddbebbc59055",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "probably more like 1 month though",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:28:48.151936+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d81cc538f3794cc1bae3834dd62a6c00",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "achow101: 2 months (or even a bit less) seems like a win",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:29:23.382324+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "03780ea030794f54932c179ba367ab91",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "why 1 month?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:29:33.726238+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "986682225cf144d0819a794eea18eaf9",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "That'd mean it takes a month to review this PR, and run an rc2",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:29:48.934246+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f2e6f0990ec24758a830a3f14d133db5",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "v30 is targeted for Oct 3. reviewing, merging, and backporting 33106, then rc that, then release in 3 weeks?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:30:17.604732+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f45b2062f1e245ac862fdf33b1f958d6",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "s/in/within",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:30:26.363587+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fa387164d74147d48d278d7cc6569017",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "Why would that take 3 weeks though?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:30:34.383584+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d6de6cfbbca04632b7708245f1eb0e98",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "seems actually a bit tight with the way we usually do things",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:30:36.092302+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ad483bb9c5294f9c9b06b8c7914dbfad",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "Seems like it's highly dependent on the time it'll take to get it reviewed. Should we try to coordinate to get it properly reviewed within the next week?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:31:53.434020+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2cc613138bd94ccbaa58a742e5fa4737",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "anyways, i don't feel that strongly about it",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:31:55.750393+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "63921e34d1d949a0a35baba875f4561f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah let's first try to get it in master",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:32:13.080294+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c02ae33eb8af4ee7a00d99ab9f75a6c0",
      "sender": "jon_atack",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:34:01.653578+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a7e365d2fcd443e58265946300b51946",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Any other topics to discuss?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:34:08.467728+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b1872825a2ac46b09e1c5103011772c5",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "rc1 testing",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:34:20.981505+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9bbc156052cf4ec19b4a4cebda864343",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "#topic v29.1rc1 testing (fanquake)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:34:35.191666+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e89e9683c82b4b4399519c3227104cfc",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "Curious to hear what testing has happend etc, amongst core contributors",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:34:38.722065+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e2e11832f613411ba6f780f61ab4663e",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "Given rc1 has been out for a week or so",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:34:44.800961+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "694b240c7dc341a7b8ac7071cabd3f13",
      "sender": "dergoegge",
      "payload": "haven't tested it at all",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:35:08.718027+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e5058975360d4f0982423adbcd3d75b6",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i was unaware :s",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:35:45.310789+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "994fbd307b524628b9b1690b71e5c7e5",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "Not much. Been running it on one of my nodes (where i was manually looking at reconstructions before b10c rolled into the thread with proper stats). It's also the binary i used to generate the stats i shared on the minrelaytxfee PR.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:36:17.765755+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f4b75e0627dd471b9bd8b161c10f3fdc",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "have it on one of my nodes, but that's all",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:37:52.601022+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1f45efc81c584cc4bb485d6b4486380b",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "I could test it with downstream software (like running functional tests of wallets). But that would only reveal things like RPC breakage which would be very unlikely for a point release. I think my time is better spent elsewhere",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:38:10.646706+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6553f525294949eea9971bf1ae98dcb3",
      "sender": "dergoegge",
      "payload": "looks like lnd is using it in CI",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:39:48.523556+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a602cdd2f7d64a9aba7ad0e488bb3bc4",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "oh nice",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:40:09.293073+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "33376d38e6554cdbb4b2188d587bf0d4",
      "sender": "dergoegge",
      "payload": "nvm they use .0 (got confused by a comment saying rc1 can be good for testing)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:40:46.500169+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dfa5a07ad3b0432b857825fa1e6c72c0",
      "sender": "eugenesiegel",
      "payload": "I heard that the change does not break things in lnd",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2025-08-07T16:41:48.152438+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e1157ff8b8af4effbff3699bee715159",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it'd be very surprising if it did, i think",
      "action": false,
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