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      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "also need to fix #30751 in some way, otherwise builds with new clang and old boost are broken",
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      "sender": "furszy",
      "payload": "probably #30684. To v28 and previous releases.",
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      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "not sure about that, given it's a real edgecase, and nobody has ever reported it",
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      "id": "f2a5b083fd434e1d96168b40d094dfe7",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "fanquake: boost issues aren't really our problem? unless we're requiring clang 18?",
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      "id": "e5b8c58bb3454eddbfdca232f8f36b7d",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "achow101: they are if we claim to support 1.73+",
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      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "and if the boost libs shipped on the distro don't work with the default compiler",
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      "id": "52b653777f58405cabdc215543eae5f0",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "unless we are telling everyone to use depends",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "hmm ok",
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      "sender": "Sjors[m]11",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "furszy: since that is",
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/28.0-Release-Notes-Draft - please contribute anything missing to the release note",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "since that issue has existed for a while, I think it's fine to skip for this release",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "(based entirely on looking at the title)",
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      "sender": "furszy",
      "payload": "sure, np there.",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "#topic Ad-hoc high priority for review",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "i guess everything needs rebase now because of cmake",
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      "payload": "#28792 for me, rebased already",
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      "id": "88eeeeb10c104981b6d7059c3e07d920",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "my suggestion during rebasing would be to drop any autotools changes, unless you just want to rebase again",
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      "id": "c4e0ede9625742f692caaea429f387b8",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "or force everyone to review two sets of the same change",
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      "id": "45dd8f03a0da4f6fbd0a0227a03a44ae",
      "sender": "fjahr",
      "payload": "editing some stuff on the build system too so interested in feedback from competent reviewers ;)",
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      "sender": "Sjors[m]11",
      "payload": "What's the ETA for kill autotools?",
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      "id": "280d5cf70e084ea085433144d23b763a",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "also, i guess if people don't rebase their stuff soon, those prs are gonna be closed",
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      "sender": "Sjors[m]11",
      "payload": "Or does it not matter if you merge something that doesn't work with it?",
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      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "hi",
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      "id": "82eceb011c48412abccddd0c0983bf10",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "what do you mean not work with? Nothing like that will be merged",
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      "id": "4faef36fd97c4a45bad19f665eb4386c",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "autotools is going to be entirely removed very soon",
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      "id": "7717a1cff00a4561a3966fb2db687b29",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "CI is only using cmake, guix is only using cmake etc",
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    },
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      "id": "d7da1ff59f52486bbdceeed74fddb9dc",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "so anything doing stuff in autotools wont even be tested properly at this point",
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      "id": "6a3e8eb22c4642f1bf45385e9b6c5213",
      "sender": "fjahr",
      "payload": "I kept the autotools stuff in so far, I felt like for me it would be easier to review both side by side but I am happy to remove it if that is the policy we want to follow generally",
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      "sender": "Sjors[m]11",
      "payload": "E.g. #30409 adds a header, so it touches Makefile.am.",
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      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:13:25+00:00"
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      "id": "051ae70dd8ca4c71b9e7e96caf22c5db",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30409 | Introduce waitTipChanged() mining interface, replace RPCNotifyBlockChange, drop CRPCSignals & g_best_block by Sjors \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #30409 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:13:27+00:00"
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      "id": "4ef84d0bae234d8e97a239a72c481e59",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]11",
      "payload": "I can drop that, but then if it's merged before autotools goes away, it won't compile.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "a2b9c5976a784942be08203d9fcf4e93",
      "sender": "fjahr",
      "payload": "(easier to review as a cmake noob)",
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    },
    {
      "id": "3587fa3071df447d94ad614736ac3b4e",
      "sender": "Sjors[m]11",
      "payload": "My other PRs are probably not getting merged before that time anyway, so I made them cmake-only.",
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      "id": "c13c629142f942b6aaf8bcf5eb1f6b16",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "Sjors I don't understand. Just make the change in cmake, and drop the autotools parts",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:14:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c807a6db49144605b8f3b22a004c02b2",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "everything will compile fine, regardless of if autotools exists or not",
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      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:14:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "090e3e97eec94588bf147ac576360fe4",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "and then you don't have to worry about when it's removed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:14:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a0827675024647dfa1421be86f1647f5",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "and your changes will be tested in the CI",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:14:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fdd1ee60d39546ec8d4cab9d498dc6e9",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "Any reason not to nuke autotools today? To moot this conversation entirely?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:15:11+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "abd06e5a9e2d4750aaf27264c065fedd",
      "sender": "fanquake",
      "payload": "cfields: that would be my preference, so we don't waste time with all this, but cmake is still lacking working features, like coverage, so it's a little bit of a blocker",
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      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:15:47+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "314a91aa7fb549308334062782fc8312",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "We discussed exactly this issue for exactly this reason and came to the conclusion that (at the very least) configure.ac+Makefile.* should be removed asap.",
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      "timestamp": "2024-08-29T14:16:34+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "4dafec22e95f49a4b5a056c8e272032a",
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