14:00:17 <achow101> #startmeeting 14:00:17 <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 9 14:00:16 2023 UTC. The chair is achow101. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings. 14:00:17 <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:00:28 <maxedw> hi 14:00:28 <hebasto> hi 14:00:32 <achow101> #bitcoin -core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa theStack TheCharlatan vasild 14:00:32 <RubenSomsen> hi 14:00:33 <abubakarsadiq> hi 14:00:35 <theStack> hi 14:00:37 <gleb> hi 14:00:38 <brunoerg> hi 14:00:42 <b10c> hi 14:00:50 <Murch[m]> Hi 14:00:54 <dergoegge> hi 14:00:57 <achow101> There's one preproposed meeting topic this week. Any last minute ones to add? 14:00:57 <instagibbs> hi 14:01:00 <lightlike> Hi 14:01:02 <stickies-v> hi 14:01:16 <RubenSomsen> I'll be giving another weekly update on silent payments 14:02:03 <achow101> RubenSomsen: I guess you're first today too 14:02:04 <achow101> #topic silent payments updates (josie) 14:02:05 <core-meetingbot> topic: silent payments updates (josie) 14:02:20 <achow101> (RubenSomsen) 14:02:41 <RubenSomsen> Actively taking review on BIP352 and responding to feedback. Biggest recent change is how labels are calculated. Every label is a completely independent 32-byte value now, could use more eyes on that change. 14:03:00 <darosior> hi 14:03:14 <instagibbs> RubenSomsen link to motivation on that change? 14:03:20 <RubenSomsen> review on #25273 by achow101 remains the primary blocker 14:03:23 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25273 | wallet: Pass through transaction locktime and preset input sequences and scripts to CreateTransaction by achow101 ÷ Pull Request #25273 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 14:03:45 <gleb> I started reviewing the silent BIP, it's one of my top priorities now 14:04:04 <sdaftuar> hi 14:04:16 <RubenSomsen> instagibbs: this gives you some insight https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1458#discussion_r1372851725 14:04:39 <RubenSomsen> Thanks gleb 14:05:03 <fjahr> hi 14:05:43 <pablomartin> hi 14:06:15 <achow101> #topic multiprocess updates (ryanofsky) 14:06:15 <core-meetingbot> topic: multiprocess updates (ryanofsky) 14:07:55 <achow101> priority seems to still be #28721, which has gotten some review 14:07:58 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28721 | multiprocess compatibility updates by ryanofsky ÷ Pull Request #28721 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 14:08:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] darosior opened pull request #28832: fuzz: rule-out too deep derivation paths in descriptor parsing targets (master...2311_fuzz_timeout_desc_parse) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28832 14:09:05 <achow101> #topic package relay updates (glozow) 14:09:05 <core-meetingbot> topic: package relay updates (glozow) 14:09:26 <glozow> Thanks to the people who jumped to review the 26711 sub-PRs so readily - I really appreciate it! 14:09:26 <glozow> There have been some offline discussions over the past couple days. IIUC we want to defer ancestor package evaluation until after cluster mempool when mempool will be much safer to work with. 14:09:26 <glozow> Still need to solidify what the new plan is but I think we may aim to get v3 + 1-parent-1-child package relay done first, then cluster mempool, then the rest of package relay. 14:10:35 <instagibbs> also orphan handling improvements, though those are strictly additive security for these purposes, right? 14:10:50 <achow101> oh? that would push it back quite a while since cluster mempool is still early 14:10:57 <gleb> glozow: will you add this info to the tracking issue? 14:11:19 <instagibbs> achow101 idea would be we'd get 2-txn-package stuff out the door quickly, wait for cluster mempool for general ancestor packages 14:11:30 <glozow> Yeah sorry, this is kind of stuff that was discussed in the last ~24 hours and still in the air so I haven't put up updates 14:11:55 <glozow> instagibbs: I think it's basically useless without the orphanage updates 14:12:02 <glozow> because of how easily churable orphanage is rn 14:13:19 <glozow> churn-able* 14:14:12 <achow101> hmm ok. looking forward to seeing the new plan 14:14:47 <achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review 14:14:47 <core-meetingbot> topic: Ad-hoc high priority for review 14:14:58 <achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4 14:15:27 <achow101> I saw that maflcko wanted #28438 14:15:30 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28438 | Use serialization parameters for CTransaction by ajtowns ÷ Pull Request #28438 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 14:17:13 <achow101> #topic 26 testing guide topics and update (maxedw) 14:17:14 <core-meetingbot> topic: 26 testing guide topics and update (maxedw) 14:17:19 <maxedw> After last weeks meeting the following topics were proposed: 14:17:28 <maxedw> V2 Transport, TapMiniscript, Submit package, macOS zip packaging, Ancestor Aware Funding, Outbound connection management, RPC: Accept options as named-only parameters, RPC: Importmempool, RPC: add getprioritisedtransactions 14:17:40 <maxedw> I have written a draft document with these topics: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/26.0-Release-Candidate-Testing-Guide 14:17:51 <maxedw> Still a little bit of work to do on submitpackage. It was suggested to potentially for the PR Review club this Wednesday try to make the or a signet with high fees for a few hours to aid in testing. 14:18:07 <maxedw> Looking for feedback on the document. 14:18:16 <maxedw> After this meeting I will create an issue on github to track feedback. 14:19:08 <achow101> maxedw: thanks for writing it up. skimmed through the doc and it looks good so far 14:20:10 <maxedw> do you agree now is a good time for a tracking issue to discuss feedback? 14:20:54 <achow101> I think feedback could go in the existing testing issue? #28718 14:20:55 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28718 | v26.0 Testing ÷ Issue #28718 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 14:21:11 <stickies-v> typically we had a separate issue for feedback on the guide (e.g. for shell script bugs etc) to keep the v26 issue clean 14:21:26 <stickies-v> would suggest to keep doing that 14:21:33 <achow101> that's also fine 14:21:58 <maxedw> that's all from me 14:22:09 <achow101> Any other topics to discuss this week? 14:22:16 <Murch[m]> Thanks for your excellent work on the guide! 14:22:18 <fjahr> Not worth a topic but there is also now a tracking issue for the remaining ASMap stuff as well: #28794 14:22:19 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28794 | Embedded ASMap data Tracking Issue ÷ Issue #28794 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 14:23:38 <achow101> #endmeeting