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      "payload": "I think the issue there is that the definition of small is subjective",
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      "payload": "Perhaps a less lowlevel possibility is offering a way to control the long-term feerate estimate used for coin selection, on a per-transaction basis?",
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      "payload": "but that is not as friendly (UX wise) as rising the \"small UTXO\" definition",
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      "payload": "or well, letting the user change that. Which probably they already can",
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      "payload": "I meant, it's different to let the user change the long-term feerate vs let them provide an \"min UTXO value\".",
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      "payload": "but in principle, it doesn't seem that bad",
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