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      "payload": "jonatack: I'll have a look at it.",
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      "payload": "achow101: maybe merge yours too; I'm hesitant to +1 without reviewing it myself, but fanquake agrees with your rtm assessment, so..",
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      "sender": "ariard",
      "payload": "so about full-rbf, i'm interested to have it being functional for the node operators willing to enjoy the benefits of it, likely LN nodes for now",
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      "payload": "however, as a savy technical user, i would be more interested to have my nodes doing preferential automatic peering, and likewise any full-rbf interested node operators",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "I'd have liked to see 25600 in, but it's not ready at a glance :<",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "i would prefer preferential peering",
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      "sender": "gleb",
      "payload": "what's the objective of discussing it here? we had a bunch of discussion in the PR, do you want just more opinions? Or a more *advanced* discussion?",
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      "id": "b910caae200e4b178658acd3d3aecf4b",
      "sender": "gleb",
      "payload": "I mean, am i supposed to repeat my comment in the PR? i dunno",
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      "sender": "ariard",
      "payload": "luke-jr: yeah just seen the comment, non-reliability of the service bit as been discussed during yesterday review club session",
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      "id": "dfad4ac0ffe5454c985a02502a34435d",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "policy is arbitrary node preference. it can never be reliable.",
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      "id": "3286fe6ecb10438bbc9dae819d33f974",
      "sender": "ariard",
      "payload": "gleb: just to bring the awareness of everyone the state of the discussion, there was also a review club session, and if anyone has more thoughts",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "so IMO it's a dead argument against it. but there's no ACKs on the current code either  :/",
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      "payload": "luke-jr: likewise tx-relay is not reliable, and still we have a p2p network",
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      "payload": "in anycase, doing preferential peering, even imperfect, to increase the effiency of our policy rules could be seen as a process change in the way we're releasing policy",
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      "payload": "so i think it's good to have more feedbacks on that (as I'm worried in the future we have more complex L2-and-policy interactions to handle)",
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      "payload": "achow101: sure, it was for consensus though?",
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