19:01:18 <laanwj> #startmeeting 19:01:19 <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 11 19:01:18 2022 UTC. The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings. 19:01:19 <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 19:01:27 <fanquake> Hi 19:01:29 <hebasto> hi 19:01:33 <josie[m]> hi 19:01:34 <sipsorcery> hi 19:01:34 <laanwj> #bitcoin -core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard b10c BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo 19:01:36 <laanwj> moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild 19:01:39 <kanzure> hi 19:01:40 <achow101> hi 19:01:43 <sipa> hi 19:01:48 <cfields> hi 19:02:00 <stickies-v> hi 19:02:32 <kvaciral> hi 19:02:45 <laanwj> first a personal announcement: as you might have heard rumors, i'm stepping down as maintainer of bitcoin core 19:03:25 <laanwj> it's been quite an adventure the last, 10 years or so! but it's time for me to do something else 19:03:29 <kanzure> sorry to hear that; do you plan to continue writing bitcoin software? 19:04:07 <achow101> laanwj: sorry to hear that, thank you for all of the work you've done over the years 19:04:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e5d8b6542397...5d294bccbae5 19:04:26 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master acda7e8 glozow: [coin selection] consolidate m_change_target and m_min_change_target 19:04:27 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5d294bc Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25825: wallet: consolidate CoinSelectionParams::m_ch... 19:04:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #25825: wallet: consolidate CoinSelectionParams::m_change_target and m_min_change_target (master...2022-08-change-targets) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25825 19:05:03 <laanwj> kanzure: i'm not sure yet; to start, i'll not merge anything anymore and not do the releases anymore 19:05:13 <sipa> laanwj: It's not a surprise, and I very much understand where you're coming from - but I'm still sad to see you go. Thank you so much for carrying the project all this time; it certainly wasn't easy. Good luck, with whatever comes next. 19:05:16 <laanwj> i'm not planning to completely disappear 19:05:17 <cfields> laanwj: thanks for those 10 years. what an amazing legacy! 19:05:43 <kanzure> glad you're not disappearing, and thank you for all the hard work 19:05:51 <stickies-v> thank you for all those years of dedication and great work, sad I wasn't part of it for longer but very much appreciated! 19:06:12 <josie[m]> laanwj: feels a bit trite to just say thanks for 10 years of work, but seriously, thank you. not only for your contributions but for also being welcoming to new contributors (like myself) 19:07:29 <laanwj> it makes me sad too, but, i'm having burnout and health issues, i just cannot do this anymore 19:07:30 <laanwj> thank you! 19:07:51 <cold> thank you for being excellent. 19:08:38 <laanwj> we have some great and enthousiastic maintainers who are already doing most of the work right now, so i'm confident the project will carry on being great 19:08:43 <achow101> that does bring up a few logistical questions though. like management of the github orgs and the bitcoincore.org website 19:08:49 <kanzure> are you planning to attend the october meeting 19:09:02 <laanwj> kanzure: probably 19:09:25 <instagibbs> retirement party, with cake 19:09:28 <instagibbs> jk 19:09:30 <kanzure> yes 19:09:33 <cfields> :) 19:09:34 <laanwj> achow101: yes 19:10:02 <laanwj> instagibbs: lol! 19:10:43 <laanwj> ok, that was my announcement, we don't need to figure out every single detail in the meeting 19:10:44 <cold> (with a person inside who bursts out and distributes high-quality sbc that use ecc and have lots of ram on them for everyone) 19:10:50 <cold> (sorry) 19:11:27 <laanwj> cold: lol 19:11:54 <laanwj> i don't think there were any pre-proposed meetings this week (you can propose them with #proposedmeetingtopic) 19:11:57 <laanwj> any last minute ones? 19:12:43 <jarolrod> a note of appreciation for people like fanquake and MacroFake who do so much, and will surely do a great job on high level project organization in laanwj absence 19:13:17 <sipa> Indeed, jarolrod! 19:13:27 <laanwj> jarolrod: +1! 19:14:24 <laanwj> they have already been doing that, i have been less involved over time 19:14:46 <laanwj> #topic High priority for review 19:14:46 <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review 19:15:20 <instagibbs> 4 days from feature freeze, yes? 19:15:21 <glozow> thank you for everything youâÂÂve done laanwj ð 19:15:26 <instagibbs> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24987 19:15:41 <achow101> feature freeze is monday 19:15:58 <laanwj> achow101: correct 19:16:13 <laanwj> so maybe better to discuss what features still have to make it 19:16:41 <laanwj> or at least ,ideally should 19:16:50 <sipa> I'd very much like to see 25717 in, though perhaps it can be seen as a bug fix? 19:17:10 <achow101> I'd really like #19602 but it might be too late for that 19:17:11 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19602 | wallet: Migrate legacy wallets to descriptor wallets by achow101 ÷ Pull Request #19602 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 19:18:42 <instagibbs> #25717 19:18:45 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25717 | p2p: Implement anti-DoS headers sync by sdaftuar ÷ Pull Request #25717 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 19:19:25 <MacroFake> laanwj: Sad to see you go (and the reason for your departure), but I can relate. Thank you for all your work and all the best for your health and whatever is ahead. 19:19:40 <fanquake> I think we could get both of those in. Even if it meant pushing feature freeze back slight. Both worthwhile. Would be good to help the wallet migration on. 19:19:43 <laanwj> added #25717 to milestone 19:19:46 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25717 | p2p: Implement anti-DoS headers sync by sdaftuar ÷ Pull Request #25717 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 19:20:05 <laanwj> 19602 already has it, it seems 19:21:11 <achow101> yeah, just hasn't really gotten review 19:21:56 <laanwj> glozow: MacroFake: thank you 19:22:28 <laanwj> if everyone wants those two PRs to make it in i'm sure we can get some review 19:23:10 <MacroFake> Are there any non-bugfix features that would be good in 24.0? Maybe #19602 ? If it looks like they'll receive enough review in a week or so, we could postpone the feature freeze by that much? 19:23:11 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19602 | wallet: Migrate legacy wallets to descriptor wallets by achow101 ÷ Pull Request #19602 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 19:23:12 <laanwj> though wallet migration is kind of risky, maybe it could be added as experimental, not as something recommended 19:24:15 <instagibbs> or just longer seasoning in master post-split? 19:24:35 <achow101> it could be marked experimental 19:24:48 <laanwj> it's something that needs testing with a wide variety of wallets, probably best way to get that is to put it in a rc 19:25:00 <achow101> it's also rpc only, and no mention of it anywhere else, so the only people who would use it are those seeking it out 19:25:01 <laanwj> but as experimental, and easy to roll back if it doesn't work as expected 19:25:05 <laanwj> right 19:25:31 <luke-jr> -experimentalrpc= perhaps in the most extreme case 19:26:31 <achow101> I don't think that will be necessary 19:26:43 <laanwj> that would be more extreme, i think just not recommending it yet, and mentioining it in the help that it is experimental, is enough in practice 19:27:45 <laanwj> MacroFake: right 19:29:44 <laanwj> ok, any other proposed features? any other topics? 19:31:47 <laanwj> if not, closing the meeting, see you next time, well i guess we'll need to find someone else to do the meeting too, though no hurry 19:32:15 <laanwj> #endmeeting