{
  "founder": "laanwj",
  "channel": "#bitcoin-core-dev",
  "network": "libera",
  "id": "ae7a593bd2c74e8d9ee303f7e736a999",
  "name": "#bitcoin-core-dev",
  "chair": "laanwj",
  "chairs": [
    "laanwj"
  ],
  "nicks": {
    "laanwj": 44,
    "core-meetingbot`": 3,
    "jonatack": 5,
    "sdaftuar": 1,
    "michaelfolkson": 1,
    "dongcarl": 19,
    "sipa": 12,
    "kvaciral[m]": 1,
    "provoostenator": 6,
    "lightlike": 1,
    "hebasto": 1,
    "achow101": 1,
    "jeremyrubin": 5,
    "darosior": 1,
    "MarcoFalke": 27,
    "gribble": 5,
    "glozow": 1,
    "sipsorcery": 1,
    "fjahr": 1,
    "_aj_": 7,
    "Earnest": 2,
    "bitcoin-git": 1
  },
  "start_time": "2022-03-10T19:00:16+00:00",
  "end_time": "2022-03-10T19:51:41+00:00",
  "active": false,
  "original_topic": "Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt",
  "current_topic": "High priority for review",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "0ad6b70709134f4daff0c6844c876ae6",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "#startmeeting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "205b63ecbf584c7ca3f02499429ca8fd",
      "sender": "core-meetingbot`",
      "payload": "Meeting started Thu Mar 10 19:00:15 2022 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d1816238aa9b44e2964f4884cf35caf5",
      "sender": "core-meetingbot`",
      "payload": "Available commands: action commands idea info link nick",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0462462265cd4c0281d2034ac2e34083",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1f59103a09fd4c7da47dd6f01a3a388c",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b87f0707d2894781ab8330461e5f8a18",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "922e992683d64132829911c922f3acbc",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "#bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d69cf1f7f06742d7aa9b72cdd04ace82",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c15bafc8f3194cf1b41df5977d050bcc",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ce14cbcba1aa4e1f902cd00e6d5e8ab8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "db8519c047934c1a9c5f87ad025a80e2",
      "sender": "kvaciral[m]",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "db1be8e468304ee09c20269151007c80",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f7a4230409434fa7a39382e78d901b1a",
      "sender": "lightlike",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9093733d3b8245debf48b4242ac92c9c",
      "sender": "hebasto",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:01:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e3d5bbf3d84c46fc8cb8d5df07e423f9",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:01:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "636498ffe4b24fb482be131b6a2d4c44",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "PSA: 23.0rc1 had some build issues, so 23.0rc2 was tagged today with fixes for that, please start your guix builds if you haven't yet",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:01:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "18f39400d1d14fa189f0210a5a3bebbd",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "hello",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:01:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0ec6e2d8ea124912acabc0bc9e6b1f8a",
      "sender": "darosior",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:01:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "be422241914644cfa44b629129dbb099",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "any topics for today? none have been proposed during the week with #proposedmeetingtopic, as far as i can see",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:02:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d5789aa61caa41df906139e5c0ea36b8",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Can I haz #24080 for hi-prio pls?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:02:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4f76e7e9aa564bf193c35828e68cc3b1",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24080 | policy: Remove unused locktime flags by MarcoFalke \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24080 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:02:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "44d2aeefd9dd4bff9f0f618039ddd710",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "we're not at the high prio topic yet, but sure",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:03:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f12755364233427fbfebca3c6d1ca627",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "ups",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:03:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1655f37c42754914a1599bee357ffdce",
      "sender": "glozow",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:03:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "930e138318e8433bb6d01b091ddbd3c4",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "#topic High priority for review",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4cce565f046243fd8cf8f020ac5a449f",
      "sender": "core-meetingbot`",
      "payload": "topic: High priority for review",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3c2c130d77094695bbfe49d8dc4ab4a3",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: added",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "216361c2b1724edb884dc1d45522dd83",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "thx",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "22394b8556fd42a4b12a4ace89314d86",
      "sender": "sipsorcery",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a981493480004fb094c773192f70765c",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "I'd still like to get this into v23 if if survives more review: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/555",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "35b667a0101d4e63ad161d575affd33a",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "(already tagged with the milestone, so I guess not high prio list needed)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "17fd3d8111d34d888d7ba8a55c53e2c1",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "is there anything else people want to add to high priority for review, or to remove, or that is ready for merge?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7864bb98f2234a8e88483b2cf1e5943f",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "Could I have #24322 for high prio? Will update within the next hour with the changes just discussed in #bitcoin-core-builds (shouldn't change much)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:05:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "56175f3d973b4eadb4b4e249eb065c11",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24322 | [kernel 1/n] Introduce initial `libbitcoinkernel` by dongcarl \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24322 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:05:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1ae18d24a1174016914934ed267e4d4d",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "provoostenator: is that a bugfix?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:05:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3845c5e76e464b2fb4138dab64865cf9",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "dongcarl: added",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:06:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "efe7744acbf643869c327cbabefcad98",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "thx!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:06:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "51e77cec03344a74b85ad404a661dae2",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "laanwj: yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:06:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a88b6be458754c2dac3f1ef9f8ae038f",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "Well at least it fixes a regression compared to v22",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:07:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "efeda4ca5b8045caab1258490aa3c9e3",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "provoostenator: makes sense then, it wasn't clear to me from the title enabling the send button sounded more like a feature",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:07:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2a11e3d579a44cc6bfbcf4bbe6f5e75e",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "Good point,  renamed to more dramatic word choice: restore",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:08:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ab7422976f1040bcb460ec4895fd41b0",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "yess",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:08:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a95f241513a442a1be938184945e6906",
      "sender": "fjahr",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:09:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3cc24f42903d4f0dac0e7bbcf6c85d75",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "(off-topic: My C++20 patch is now ready #24169. Not sure if this needs discussion, if it does, then this is my topic suggestion)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:09:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8750abb3b3404c62b6d4a37ed192ed4a",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24169 | build: Add --enable-c++20 option by MarcoFalke \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24169 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:09:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "892a068edb9b4248a7dce2332bd1d161",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "good to know, i don't think that particular PR needs discussion, only if the goal is to make c++20 a minimum requirement",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:11:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7b6a090a8bc94489b369e238dac36103",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "but i suppose that's still some time away",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:11:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7d6e81aee5314e6b99cbf168e28073f0",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "@MarcoFalke cool",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:12:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6f2a016cd1014c2f8ca691ac4dbdc2c5",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Yes, the minimum will be changed later (not sure when)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:12:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ff453fd233f04163ba3aade306ee9d97",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(i don't think there is much more to discuss about that either)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:12:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "62d56594214a4b4c969b1759d844058e",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "is there any pressing reason for c++20?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:13:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bb7617d993854459acb668ceba01b030",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "in the context of our project",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:13:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "92df00f8e07c46738fb4564a22555dcf",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Yeah, the pull shouldn't affect anyone unless they opt-in",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:13:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b49db4e2a34b457682ad345cf3a72615",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "laanwj: named arguments (which work since clang 3) were only officially added in C++20",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:14:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c7c83fa1817f44b5b499754c80e29b2d",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "ok",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:14:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0861452d3ff9427d8220865fc6d0222d",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "will try it. there are also some niceties in std::chrono and std::algorithm that I would have liked to use",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:14:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "369eec8e05a4422c9f5b86dc14c555dc",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "(so far)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:15:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "991c21a977a145b59bdc6058b6044851",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it's not like you can actually use them with this already, except inside #if #else variants.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:15:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a7130f7d151d4b94b2efcdbd038558e9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "This is really just to make sure that our codebase is c++20 compliant (as well as c++17 compliant)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:15:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e1885879ffb548f694f32dd07b4781f6",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "See also #23363",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:15:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "237bdd3374fe409ba57522abdc6e07b3",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23363 | Discussion: Upgrading to C++20 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Issue #23363 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:15:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9e3be6ac8d304e4fbde67ebee3d83737",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "it seems a bit eary to break compatibility with compilers again",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:16:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "302d9f713cd0455b83f65e087a79a6c2",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: Named arguments would really help my branch removing argsmanager from validation, where I introduce a few Options structs, alas perhaps too early to bump min C++",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:16:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cca7268f26ab40a5876f6b2d7b96a762",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "sipa: yes, making sure it can be compiled with c++20 makes sense of course",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:17:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e39e937b7718408ea18fdda60d8aaea2",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Named arguments choke only the msvc C++17 compiler, so as a hack we could bump msvc to C++20 and then start using named args with C++17 on clang/gcc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:17:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "76f6421845e547d9ad9b3343c824f435",
      "sender": "_aj_",
      "payload": "dongcarl: have you seen https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24032/commits/3d3724e95b34931a4de8d31450f33ef0a32965e7#diff-ff53e63501a5e89fd650b378c9708274df8ad5d38fcffa6c64be417c4d438b6dR376-R382 ? gives fake named arguments",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:17:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4e139b98310b42e6af8a41a4022aa8e6",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "hides",
      "action": true,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:17:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2af5715ccbff42fe94ec5cbbf7372c0f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "GCC only fully supports C++20 as of GCC 11, which was released 9 momths ago. It'll be a few years I think before we can assume common platforms have it available.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:18:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2430afe72321437d95cf37d4527f3036",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:18:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dca3b30c2c374eaea99037fd22642383",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "oh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:19:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "38bbf6d334de4875854db2869440f5f9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "or even some parts in GCC 12",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:19:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9c60f434af434095a3e6122bd96a3617",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "sipa: True",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:19:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "13e6d6214e994da6abc29b0a78a78b1e",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: No flag on msvc to enable _just_ named arguments?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:19:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "423770e2098b41879326eea7ee0e43b3",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "At least Ubuntu/Debian seem agressive in backporting compilers",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:19:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "75d0f2e441da414f8b047617e7f5aa07",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "i dont't think we should be jumping on bumping the minimum gcc faster and faster",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:19:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a7775f922f7c47f1bab3f4621202f364",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "_aj_: Lol very cool hack!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:19:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "23350eba170f485b891419e14a7161af",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "It's true that the guix based build allows us to go a bit faster, but still..m",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:20:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "571981796cd242968b2fa67e8d813331",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "sends aj to c++ jail",
      "action": true,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:21:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3ccde51c5a874388ac48d27339e9f6f3",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and removes all his friend classes?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:21:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c1de6fb029ca4aea9ef2424fe5c09208",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Right, I am not too happy that this needs bumping so far",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:22:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f1d4247b76174d1c85b1959c4803dc40",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Let's see how many people will complain about the gcc-8 minimum in 23.x",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:22:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ed8469a790d045ebaa07cddb093114e8",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "_aj_: scary lol",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:22:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a50845049fce4bc9bebefefd5e0aeba6",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Though, designated initializers is already implemented in gcc-8",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:24:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0e4ad0e1f5604aa99f84040f29327d37",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "gcc 8 was released in 2018, hopefully not too many",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:26:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e63c9e617e6940f69c50956cb9c6032a",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "dongcarl: Not aware of a flag for that, but I don't think our msvc users are running that old software, so at least for them C++20 shouldn't be an issue",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:27:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c567bf3f75ba4a14b50aa72043ab20fd",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "and yes guix allows bumping faster, though, it's generally nice if it's possible to build bitcoind with a platforms' existing compiler as-is",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:28:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9dcc3ad79c1143b3a2bbfa3a50e9b246",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "for MSVC there's less reason to support old versions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:29:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f149a65d194a4e0693f1ba2172949179",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "+1 \"it's generally nice if it's possible to build bitcoind with a platforms' existing compiler as-is\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:30:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dbaf5eee665649d0a2c2e37c3fd39c7f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "indeed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:30:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "57d514c5ad9b497ab34a19d4b84ffd07",
      "sender": "_aj_",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: i'm not stuck in here with c++, c++ is stuck in here with me",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:31:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "09b17702576d4af8ad40310475402644",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "any other topics for today?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:31:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e7651f9369f348ed91b9e5e621148649",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "So would people object using C++17 + designated initializers?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:32:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "716411df0dc4483fabf8cce0011680e6",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "I'm not very much a fan of enabling features too selectively, but I guess if there is a good reason?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:33:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ec56ee92bf4e4d91bf6b04c3324735e8",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "I think I agree with sipa's comment against whitelisting features granularly",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:33:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e88f7946ce9f46669a8aba0340af8060",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "I'd support it since it's been in gcc and clang for so long, but I don't know the msvc situation",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:33:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "628f79e5a7994201ac06396be39deea9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "*granularly",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:33:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0723af3e953f4f1e9a800ab69df5da91",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Seems slightly preferable to me than to implement designated initializers ourselves",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:33:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5ebfc9c1b272401a86ef9624f4b691ef",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "it's a bit weird to conform to a standard but then make an exception, then again, like with browsers it seems that there's so little competition that \"if it works with gcc and clang\" is all that matters...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:33:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a54309b1abab4d38bcef118f5c0eb1de",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "building our own c++ compiler seems like something we'll do at some point",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:34:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0c0933e35f2b42bdb1c84e19e72a2123",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "so i don't have a big problem with it either",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:34:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a98a14f705b749d994f56797ad7ef0a6",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "I found it very useful in mostly heterogenous structs to make sure I'm not setting the wrong element, or to set only a subset of elements and leave the rest to default.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:34:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e03f5c536e7045dab1a425dd9b5f2d17",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: who is this we",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:35:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3ee87626f60b4c89a0d4a4cc49a11619",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Just saying, if we want #24032, then it seems we want designated initializers. If not, then well no need to discuss ;)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:35:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "592c3e2fa656462abf56634503c21b84",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24032 | Refactor vDeployments setup to avoid uninitialized variables by ajtowns \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24032 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:35:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0353add549f64e40b105cd0786a0f918",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "You could do it in other ways, but it's much nicer with designated initializers",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:35:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d180213c67aa40e48e8581ba35428d78",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "other ways = clang-tidy annotations / Options foo{}; foo.this_particular_item = 0; foo.that_particular_item = 5;",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:36:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "db6017eb760e4217844a6ee568869ed4",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "yeah, a workaround could be to add a constructor to the struct that takes all arguments and then use clang-tidy's named argument check",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:36:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "96bd775e4fa24c2c8454e9e27c37b6aa",
      "sender": "_aj_",
      "payload": "(foo.this=1; foo.that=2; prevents \"foo\" from being const)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:37:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f24f74f88aa9436891e384fe72b1e0c7",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "_aj_: TRUE! I ran into that ytd",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:37:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f1dba52c60854bb8ac794a461e31c12a",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "_aj_: you can rebind it after to a const?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:37:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b60f51162e264caca40432c60f8312c5",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "if it's moveable",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:37:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0054e29716b643adaf3722cfacf394e5",
      "sender": "_aj_",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: or wrap it in a function, sure",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:37:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "078c989b76fb4b31b997a8154263a606",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "so to be clear, using designated initializers works right now, without any build system changes?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:38:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "706dafe6d813413492a0731fbbbc976f",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "and without bumping minimum compiler versions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:38:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "69010c29a2904ccf8b2801cfb02f1f18",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "const Options foo{[]{ Options _foo{}; _foo.a =  0; _foo.b = 1; return _foo; }()};",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:38:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9f401a65ad3f4e14be67f27b2cb8269e",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "laanwj: Yes, we already did that a long time ago",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:39:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8aad56b2097145a5801d693524f099fd",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: \u00c3\u00b0\u00c2\u009f\u00c2\u00a4\u00c2\u00ae",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:39:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e672b886fbaf46feb81fe44c17a87da4",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "laanwj: Only found out when we started compiling the code (fuzz tests) with msvc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:39:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "250905419e5a4c3189fc52779197505a",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: Oh it doesn't fail on msvc? It's just review that's stopping designated initializers?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:39:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ca8740e406e548498863aead0ca0cd61",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "i mean in that case i don't see a big problem with using them",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:39:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a76e9d4b866342debd076ca2a42d1b83",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "dongcarl: It does fail msvc. Though, bumping msvc to c++20 should fix that issue.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:40:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "23e138cf838b410d95fe813db20bb3e1",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "bump the msvc requirement to c++20",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:40:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6fc18a1392fe433e9917d6c262127a8a",
      "sender": "_aj_",
      "payload": "https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/compiler_support -- lists Apple's Clang as only having partial support",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:40:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f5007965681e4a6faf03d7c08d111ba2",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:40:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2026a45c239a4aa0b4a070350f940a56",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Jup, but that should be the same partial support that clang-7 has",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:41:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0a2fa30e211a4b42a20e35d8bb286d59",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "so we can only use the partial support",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:41:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5895dc31fe3147c5bef0feb4c574e204",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:41:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a7e9e969a1404d9c8aa01642315871ff",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "if that isn't enough then there's no need to bother",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:41:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "807ed897a9ac40fe84269b77b688d746",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "wonders if we should start using {fmt} in preparation for C++20 std::format",
      "action": true,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:42:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6152c98e98564bddb1de4aad4a5da270",
      "sender": "_aj_",
      "payload": "sgtm",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:42:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "eb249324b23a44cf8e38b670498cac17",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "dongcarl: std::format lands with improvements in C++23, so is it ready for production in C++20 already?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:43:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "92d569b6a76b4e1e85f320ff072a9c82",
      "sender": "Earnest",
      "payload": "Is there an issue/pr for dumpwallet with descriptor wallets?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:43:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "be0289a550db4e77931a852bdadbfa64",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: oh perhaps not, haven't looked into it yet. {fmt} is compatible with C++20 std::format and has users, so I assume it's somewhat usable?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:44:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cd43ab5885b241989238a5c29bde4811",
      "sender": "Earnest",
      "payload": "Or will that be replaced with new 'listdescriptors true' rpc?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:44:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a4c219390f244c938143c54c7b66ff83",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "i dont think there is an urgent reason to switch to another way of string formatting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:44:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7e61d8d7f288470dba60ccc40c4880df",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "The designated initializers partial support doesn't allow braces, which no one should be using anyway unless required",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:44:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9a30fe6042064372b0233e52e07fd405",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "laanwj: Right, not urgent at all",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:45:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0cf867f0dea54e7094111b7b639547d8",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "replacing tinyformat is something we can do after c++20 or even c++23",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:47:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e650c7ce9f1045c0b088cb8bcc44434b",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "Yup!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:48:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ad960bc0b67b474c9ae8c877233e9081",
      "sender": "bitcoin-git",
      "payload": "[bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #24527: test: set segwit height back to 0 on regtest (master...202203_regtest_segwitheight) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24527",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:48:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cace775dd7594d4c995ce96f4d76816c",
      "sender": "_aj_",
      "payload": "replacing tinyformat sounds like a lot of lines of code to change",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:48:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a2241323e3774becb6b8687eaa41d9f5",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "but it could be mechanical, maybe",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:48:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8f41c898a92c427282cd5c2df04725d4",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "given that format strings map in some way",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:49:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "eebbbd335e714a4bb4b048f08363e9af",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "in any case, it's not urgent",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:49:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "17eddfe524b242338c8fc76692b7ccfa",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "any other topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:49:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3ff189b3dc83459da220abaeda3d36b2",
      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "#endmeeting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:51:41+00:00"
    }
  ],
  "events": [
    {
      "event_type": "START_MEETING",
      "message": {
        "id": "0ad6b70709134f4daff0c6844c876ae6",
        "sender": "laanwj",
        "payload": "#startmeeting",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:16+00:00"
      },
      "operand": null,
      "id": "0ad6b70709134f4daff0c6844c876ae6",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:00:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "LINK",
      "message": {
        "id": "4f76e7e9aa564bf193c35828e68cc3b1",
        "sender": "gribble",
        "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24080 | policy: Remove unused locktime flags by MarcoFalke \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24080 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:02:52+00:00"
      },
      "operand": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24080",
      "id": "4f76e7e9aa564bf193c35828e68cc3b1",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:02:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "TOPIC",
      "message": {
        "id": "930e138318e8433bb6d01b091ddbd3c4",
        "sender": "laanwj",
        "payload": "#topic High priority for review",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:05+00:00"
      },
      "operand": "High priority for review",
      "id": "930e138318e8433bb6d01b091ddbd3c4",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:04:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "LINK",
      "message": {
        "id": "56175f3d973b4eadb4b4e249eb065c11",
        "sender": "gribble",
        "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24322 | [kernel 1/n] Introduce initial `libbitcoinkernel` by dongcarl \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24322 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:05:03+00:00"
      },
      "operand": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24322",
      "id": "56175f3d973b4eadb4b4e249eb065c11",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:05:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "LINK",
      "message": {
        "id": "8750abb3b3404c62b6d4a37ed192ed4a",
        "sender": "gribble",
        "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24169 | build: Add --enable-c++20 option by MarcoFalke \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24169 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:09:35+00:00"
      },
      "operand": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24169",
      "id": "8750abb3b3404c62b6d4a37ed192ed4a",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:09:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "LINK",
      "message": {
        "id": "237bdd3374fe409ba57522abdc6e07b3",
        "sender": "gribble",
        "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23363 | Discussion: Upgrading to C++20 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Issue #23363 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:15:36+00:00"
      },
      "operand": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23363",
      "id": "237bdd3374fe409ba57522abdc6e07b3",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:15:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "LINK",
      "message": {
        "id": "592c3e2fa656462abf56634503c21b84",
        "sender": "gribble",
        "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24032 | Refactor vDeployments setup to avoid uninitialized variables by ajtowns \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #24032 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:35:12+00:00"
      },
      "operand": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24032",
      "id": "592c3e2fa656462abf56634503c21b84",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:35:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "LINK",
      "message": {
        "id": "6fc18a1392fe433e9917d6c262127a8a",
        "sender": "_aj_",
        "payload": "https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/compiler_support -- lists Apple's Clang as only having partial support",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:40:25+00:00"
      },
      "operand": "https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/compiler_support",
      "id": "6fc18a1392fe433e9917d6c262127a8a",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:40:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "event_type": "END_MEETING",
      "message": {
        "id": "3ff189b3dc83459da220abaeda3d36b2",
        "sender": "laanwj",
        "payload": "#endmeeting",
        "action": false,
        "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:51:41+00:00"
      },
      "operand": null,
      "id": "3ff189b3dc83459da220abaeda3d36b2",
      "timestamp": "2022-03-10T19:51:41+00:00"
    }
  ],
  "aliases": {},
  "vote_in_progress": false,
  "motion_index": null
}