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      "payload": "jonatack: good point on the hardcoded seeds,they should use port 0 too?",
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      "payload": "laanwj: it makes no sense. we should not diverge at all",
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      "payload": "not before that",
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      "sender": "hebasto",
      "payload": "that means after rc1 or rc2?",
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      "payload": "it doesn't work 100% at the moment but it's easier to fix up in case there are unforseen problems with guix than bringing everything back",
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      "payload": "in that case 22.0 release source code will contain broken gitian stuff",
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      "sender": "laanwj",
      "payload": "I don't see a big problem with that",
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      "sender": "hebasto",
      "payload": "should we mention it in release notes?",
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