19:00:48 <laanwj> #startmeeting 19:00:48 <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jun 17 19:00:47 2021 UTC. The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings. 19:00:48 <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 19:00:53 <hebasto> hi 19:01:08 <laanwj> #bitcoin -core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos 19:01:10 <laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild 19:01:12 <ariard> hi 19:01:13 <meshcollider> hi 19:01:15 <jamesob> hi 19:01:22 <fjahr> hi 19:01:22 <kvaciral[m]> hi 19:01:36 <laanwj> one proposed meeting topic: CoreDev in 2021 (ariard) 19:02:02 <ariard> yep 19:02:21 <laanwj> for the rest it might make sense to discuss things on the 0.22 milestone https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/milestone/47 (instead of high priority for review) 19:02:31 <MarcoFalke> hi 19:02:37 <jonasschnelli> hi 19:03:08 <laanwj> we've slipped the feature freeze but I think it would make to postpone it https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20851#issuecomment-863132781 , though not sure by how much 19:03:27 <achow101> hi 19:03:49 <gene> hi 19:04:35 <laanwj> #topic 22.0 milestone 19:04:35 <core-meetingbot> topic: 22.0 milestone 19:05:13 <laanwj> so there are still plenty of PRs that can be seen as a feature tagged for 22.0, many close to being mergable (just need a bit more review), https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/milestone/47 19:05:22 <laanwj> anything to add/remove? 19:05:50 <jonatack> hi 19:05:59 <hebasto> also https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/milestone/2 19:07:06 <laanwj> hebasto: yes, that too 19:07:39 <sipa> i can't really pay much attentiin here right now 19:08:02 <laanwj> anyhow I hope people will get around to reviewing the remaining ones soon so they can still make it into 0.22 19:08:19 <sipa> will address review.comments on my prs soon, though 19:08:30 <laanwj> sipa: thanks! 19:08:37 <hebasto> if #21454 is gitian-specific and we moving to guix, maybe remove it? 19:08:38 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21454 | gitian: GLIBC_2.29 not found error at bitcoind startup on bionic ÷ Issue #21454 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 19:09:04 <laanwj> hebasto: I'm not aware guix solves that, it uses the same glibc to build again 19:09:17 <hebasto> ok 19:09:38 <laanwj> hebasto: we need to get rid of these symbols uses somehow https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22244#issuecomment-860932169 19:10:14 <ariard> i'm keeping an eye on #22147, if re-review is needed :) 19:10:15 <laanwj> "build against the correct glibc" is likely the best option though and more realistic in guix than in gitian 19:10:16 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22147 | p2p: Protect last outbound HB compact block peer by sdaftuar ÷ Pull Request #22147 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 19:10:44 <laanwj> still, it doesn't warrant closing the issue yet 19:11:02 <laanwj> (or unmilestoning it) 19:11:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dergoegge closed pull request #21706: log: Mitigate disk filling attacks by globally rate limiting LogPrintf(â¦) (master...g_log_ratelimiting) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21706 19:11:26 <jonatack> ariard: yup same, as well as #20234 19:11:29 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20234 | net: dont extra bind for Tor if binds are restricted by vasild ÷ Pull Request #20234 ÷ bitcoin/bitcoin ÷ GitHub 19:12:45 <laanwj> thanks ariard and jonatack 19:13:30 <laanwj> #topic CoreDev in 2021 (ariard) 19:13:31 <core-meetingbot> topic: CoreDev in 2021 (ariard) 19:13:34 <ariard> hi 19:14:14 <ariard> so i was told by a lot of OGs in this projects, that they had the feeling about a decrease in communication quality around the last months, partially due to the lack of in-person meetings 19:14:31 <ariard> and i was lucky to be in Miami, and it was super cool to see a lot of LN devs in-person :) 19:14:48 <ariard> and have far greater understanding of our opposite arguments, which can sometimes be heated 19:15:11 <ariard> so i'm curious about what's folks thinking about in-person meeting again, maybe even in 2021 ? 19:15:25 <jonatack> + 19:15:26 <jonasschnelli> always a good idea... 19:15:34 <jamesob> Would love one, happy to help organize if needed 19:15:46 <jonasschnelli> just make sure you pick a country with minimal restrictions 19:15:56 <jonatack> ^ not in the US though 19:15:59 <ariard> jonasschenelli: i know that's a lot of work, i'm happy to help there 19:16:02 <jonasschnelli> EU people can't travel to the US right now 19:16:21 <ariard> jonasschnelli: yeah i wouldn't advise doing in the US right now, europe start to be more chill 19:16:29 <ariard> but it's really a per-country question 19:16:35 <hebasto> someone cannot travel even in EU now 19:16:41 <jonatack> EU just opened its borders, at least for the summer i guess 19:16:56 <ariard> hebasto: i know gleb has the same issue :/ we might pick a non-eu country 19:17:00 <laanwj> NL is still difficult (though things are clearing up) 19:17:04 <jonasschnelli> EU seems fine. Everyone just needs to have a test (or vac.) 19:17:12 <jonatack> el zonte 19:17:13 <jonasschnelli> Switzerland is fine 19:17:24 <achow101> usually we do coredev before/after another conference, are there any upcoming for this year? 19:17:53 <ariard> achow101: yes maybe LN hacking days, and we'll have a BDK/LDK meeting in europe in autumn (hopefully) 19:18:08 <ariard> a LN hacking day in germany or portugal 19:18:24 <fjahr> I would be happy to, seems a lot more feasible from where I am lately but in several parts of the world things are still very complicated. But fall is probably the best bet. 19:19:38 <jonasschnelli> ariard: I think it is a great idea. Willing to help. We also have coredev funds available for location, food, travel subsidy, etc. 19:20:14 <ariard> yeah i know, we won't be able to get everyone, like australia is pretty closed rn, but more folks, more fun :) 19:20:24 <jonatack> there is a bitcoin conference in biarritz, france (next to spain on the atlantic) end-august 19:20:59 <jonatack> some devs have reached out or are already planning to come for it 19:21:04 <darosior> jonatack: the conference is entire in french though 19:21:10 <ariard> jonasschenlli: awesome, let me send a mail to the OGs who has done the last ones, to have a start on considerations 19:21:19 <jonatack> right, but not core dev :) 19:21:28 <ariard> darosior: well we're still working hard to make french the official LN language, no :p ? 19:21:39 <jonatack> darosior: i wasn't planning to attend the conf itself 19:21:49 <darosior> ariard: haha +1 19:21:59 <ariard> who should i cc as part of the mail jamesob, jonatack, who else wants to help ? 19:22:25 <ariard> i think previous ones have been jonasschnelli, moneyball, schmidty and jnewbery ? 19:22:31 <ariard> *organized by 19:22:51 <jonasschnelli> ariard: yes. see https://coredev.tech/index.html#contact 19:23:23 <darosior> ariard: Happy to help, depending on the location of course i could be less useful.. 19:23:42 <ariard> jonasschnelli: i know, i was invited to such coooool kids reunion one day but it did never happen :,( 19:23:53 <jonatack> (here's the conf i mentioned: https://www.surfinbitcoin.com/2021) 19:25:11 <jonasschnelli> August might be a bit tight.. but France might be a good option (especially in summer, tourism keeps it open and easy) 19:25:28 <achow101> I expect things will be more open towards the end of the year 19:25:45 <achow101> maybe we should do it in november and have a taproot activation party at the same time :) 19:25:54 <ariard> achow101: hard to say, most of europe start to be really open, and yes french has a big lobby to re-open most of the things for the season 19:26:01 <laanwj> anywhere in the EU is fine with me (assuming I'm allowed to travel, but as said, things are getting better here now that everyone is getting vaccinated) 19:26:08 <ariard> achow101: too much kharma :p 19:26:13 <jonatack> jonasschnelli: yes, august-early sept is the best time of year there and prices goes way down after august 19:26:45 <jonatack> jonasschnelli: end-aug / all of september and october actually 19:27:06 <sipa> i'm happy to travel wherever i'm allowed.to go for a coredev meetup 19:27:54 <jonasschnelli> I think someone should just pick a date and a location (vague) and see how can attend. If there are enough people, book a venue and finalise the organisation 19:27:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] steffanjensen opened pull request #22272: Update transaction.cpp (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22272 19:28:00 <ariard> yeah we'll consider carefully the travel bans to pick up a location 19:28:13 <ariard> jonasschnelli: yep, rough consensus :) 19:29:03 <jonasschnelli> ariard: Happy to share my past experience in organising (did SF and Zurich) (and of course I can help with stuff) 19:29:22 <ariard> jonasschenlli: thanks a lot, i'll reach out :) 19:29:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #22272: Update transaction.cpp (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22272 19:29:38 <jonasschnelli> always good to have someone near the planed venue 19:29:42 <jonasschnelli> looking over to jonatack 19:29:55 <jonatack> sgtm 19:30:06 <jonatack> i don't like travelling :) 19:30:53 <ariard> jonatack: have you considered surfing across the atlantic as a travel mean :p ? 19:31:07 <fjahr> sets meeting location to jon's house 19:31:08 <hebasto> hope being vaccinated will open EU borders for me 19:31:32 <ariard> okay, we'll do the things announced and share back news during next meetings :) 19:31:49 <laanwj> great! 19:32:15 <jonasschnelli> thanks ariard 19:32:18 <laanwj> any other last minute topics? 19:32:24 <jonatack> hebasto: i hope so 19:33:12 <laanwj> #endmeeting