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      "payload": "jnewbery: I don't know what you have against me, but trolling liek that is unproductive and malicious.",
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      "payload": "anyone is free to review the logs for relevent context http://gnusha.org/taproot-activation/2021-04-06.log",
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      "payload": "which says: \" The idea can be implemented on top of either Bitcoin Core's existing BIP9 code or its proposed BIP8 patchset.[6]\"",
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