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      "payload": "so we have taproot descriptors now, right?",
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      "id": "fbbb57eaaa8c4bf9b12e16d563fc0ffe",
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      "payload": "maybe it's worth a discussion what they should look like (including some features the current PR doesn't have)",
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      "payload": "well at least single key things",
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      "payload": "but perhaps that should include sanket1729, andytoshi, and other people working with descriptors",
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      "payload": "There was a discussion about what we should do for address types for taproot in #20861: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20861#discussion_r592054623",
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      "id": "525c0491b34e4e38a6a7a80cd9160aa0",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "which seems like something we should discuss in this meeting",
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      "id": "6f7d1a1593f4420191f7dc98b0c93129",
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      "payload": "i think the discussion is actually kind of out of scope for 20861 itself",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "from that discussion, sipa is in favor of adding bech32m, while I think we should move to naming the types by what they do",
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      "payload": "it's more relevant for #21365, and probably even more when we'd think about supporting it by default",
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: imagine a successor to taproot appears, does it make sense for a wallet user to select on a *per-payment-request* basis between wit v1 and wit v2?",
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      "id": "bb7e4b7eac914bb4b4f2bc7789b9a69e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i guess it may be a bit of a expert vs beginner usage question",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: I would expect no",
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      "id": "bab3df9c810744f8b0b597e91f128ed8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "because exposing it that way kind of forces people to know and care about the distinction",
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it's of course a far future question, and maybe the debate is just silly to have at this point",
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      "id": "8f93573458ea49b481f26a1d15661e2d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "but I think that it makes sense to expect a user to want to stay with v1 until v2 is more mature",
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      "id": "02c9460611754f92a7a7defc931ffece",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "absolutely, but i'd expect the wallet to expose a way to select between base58/bech32/bech32m addresses perhaps... and until some time bech32m wallets would just not without manual intervention have any witv2 descriptors",
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      "id": "4a18a06777a64feb891286e853ea9b94",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "same with taproot, you just wouldn't be able to get a taproot descriptor in your wallet without manual intervention until it's well activated, and then it'd get integrated in wallet creation/upgrade UIs",
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      "id": "b9dbc8d4fde0419b83af1f04863612f5",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "mh. so, is this only about what name the v1 output addresses should be filed under in Bitcoin Cor}?",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:21:36+00:00"
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      "id": "6bfb48eb3de34eee9d3640343c4d06d5",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "the name, but also what things it should distinguish between",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:22:18+00:00"
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      "id": "f32138388ecc4134bdc6863e430c479b",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "I'd rather call them P2TR in that case than \"bech32m\" since the latter is just how the address is formatted",
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      "id": "380419237097483f8dfba0e5b805a1be",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "Or would you expect that not to be distinct from v2+",
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      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "?",
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      "id": "e04279f1ca1c41a9ae63df5bf4fa6094",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Murch: my point is that on a per address basis, what you care is *what does the sender support*",
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      "id": "f0597163b19a4cc6a765ab0cc6936d34",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: so then creation would have an option to create only v1 if that is what the user wanted? and then we need some way to add a v2 later that isn't super difficult to use (like importdescriptors kind of is)",
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      "id": "f156923f1a294da7941a11f0cc8c3685",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "but I guess a general upgrade path that adds descriptors for each witness version will be required anyways",
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      "id": "c61861f77ef048fe9b5545d1fd7f5eaa",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "sipa: Yes, so it's important that you can generate an older type of address",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:23:28+00:00"
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      "id": "ef4cbe32e442401e999e009abfd19a79",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and if the sender supports bech32m, it should be up to your wallet (and its configuration) to decide whether to give a witv1 or witv2 address if a bech32m one is requested",
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      "id": "e606a0354d5e42b8b60a67284211b75f",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Murch: bech32m (should) apply to all future witness versions too",
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      "payload": "achow101: yes",
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      "id": "bdabb4b43a7d4bfda83dee388ccfbf58",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "sipa: But the receiver picks the address, not the sender",
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      "id": "f2906bc13875449ca485ba8a2d08ce01",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "so it's not like the sender will say \"bech32m please\" without the receiver intepreting that",
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      "id": "9c85e4e18cba40809efcac5e021075e9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Murch: yes, but the receiver shouldn't care about witv1 vs witv2 on a per-receive-address basis",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:24:38+00:00"
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      "id": "2b110fb8e06048d9a625afe819c7ece8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "if his wallet supports fancy witv2, he'd give a witv2",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:25:03+00:00"
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      "id": "9f61402898e3463a8c79e418ab644537",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "if not, a witv1",
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      "id": "f468ccde7d6949f7a78653aefdb30912",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "how do you know that, when we don't know what native segwit v2 will encompass? ;)",
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      "id": "2239902720ab43898756d73e05af912b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "my point is that non-expert senders and receivers shouldn't need to care about witness versions or taproot or whatever or not",
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "they only care about what address format they both understand",
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      "id": "b531f015b5b049e8a42f9f861f52d72a",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "And I disagree! ;)",
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      "id": "3802a6f2dd6b4caa8bffa61a3f81325d",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "to be clear: i'm not saying there shouldn't be a way to decide between witv1 and witv2",
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      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "The sender is more concerned about compatibility, but the recipient may be more interested in picking the script among the compatible options",
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      "id": "c0c7ad9f68e248ffa9866977f2ff1429",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but that's part of the wallet definition, not something you want per address basis",
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      "id": "f300b65e4fb94e31bde102fcea59ff76",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "oh, I guess that might have been a misunderstanding on my end",
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "if you have a witv2 wallet, it'll give a witv2 address if you request bech32m",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:27:48+00:00"
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      "id": "bd4490361b2c4227b6454a145ce08a10",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "if you have a witv1 wallet, it'll give a witv1 address if you request bech32m",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:27:58+00:00"
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      "id": "8b8d7149f6c34ed69e0f92692426097c",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "but given what we saw with bech32 v0 vs v1+, do you actually expect wallets to be compatible with new segwit versions out of the box?",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:28:18+00:00"
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      "id": "948144c5987847c6bfc04fc1d1ab2ffe",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think what we decide here may influence that :)",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:28:31+00:00"
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      "id": "6d43e47b752848aaad32b6fe1229c73d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "I hope that they will be now since the issue was brought to light",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:28:46+00:00"
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      "id": "24257f8e3a384150ae15c5fd693de8e4",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "if people start thinking about bc1p addresses as \"taproot addresses\", perhaps that'll not work as well as when people just think about them as bech32m addresses (that can do any future thing)",
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      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:29:20+00:00"
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      "id": "840cf8d8f29048968b2942b3d02c760a",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "okay, just to clarify, we're talking about the parameter that one would use to pick the address type when generating a new address, right?",
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      "id": "1dbdcec404284a2ca5f73146ddd1df8c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Murch: really the question is: how do we internally classify the descriptors",
      "action": false,
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      "payload": "right",
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      "id": "a854c6602e2d46249d71b3fe7dd399e5",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "thinking on this further, I don't really have a strong argument for the per-version address type in a descriptor wallet",
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      "id": "0defea8637e844dc8784f80896e6dc1c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and if that category is \"BECH32M\", that'd presumably mean in a witv1/witv2 world, you couldn't have a wallet that has a way to produce both witv1 and witv2 payment addresses",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:30:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bc78359d650c4b2b9d8cd68a779330a8",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "So, your proposition is to not distinguish them at the address generation request level so that people may be forced to properly implement bech32m support?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:30:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "05ca49ba8c704d88b21f80aa1f43cae8",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "however in HWI, it makes sense since we are handling keys there, not descriptors. And the per-version address type makes sense in the keys model (like the legacy wallet and hardware wallets)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:30:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e5af2d1ed33842d3a3699d5bfc50a719",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Murch: not necessarily force but rather that there isn't any reason to choose between v1 or v2 at a per-payment-request level",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:32:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2831d83641234484a023ad3fc872ccf6",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: i guess what i want to avoid is that all wallets by default end up having 14 descriptors loaded just because they need to support p2pkh, and p2wpkh, and p2sh-p2wpkh, and p2tr, and p2witv2, and p2witv3, ...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:32:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "71bab1e38dea4559916b6c352a9fcf05",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "achow101: Yeah, that's a good point. Or when you try to recover an old wallet, you want to be able to specify the version to not necessarily be the latest",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:32:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b194c0856b984b2f92e791359757416f",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: 14 descriptors is better than 2000 keys :p",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:32:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "249b04ada28a460daa6af01df60d8bbf",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: what about 14 descriptors each pre-expanded to 1000 keys?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:33:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "346f0ba4bf514c1ea3c4dda4a8ae5827",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "that could be a problem",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:33:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0f5fb50c4ba44893b749227563bff436",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "was afk...so IIUC the getnewaddress \"address_type\" options would be: \"legacy\", \"p2sh-segwit\", \"bech32\", \"bech32m\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:33:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2e5308e0fc214ec59e6232495e00d386",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "vaguely relatedly, and maybe less long-term: i think we can merge the legacy and p2sh-segwit output types",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:33:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ea102cf8e28449a8aee9637235f3bf43",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "every sender supports both p2pkh and p2sh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:34:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "853742a5fe5e4f5cb8d3b288baa9e7dd",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: they still make sense for legacy wallets",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:34:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5be92cf26d80491f8fb2e9ae502d46d5",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "maybe we can merge them when those go away",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:34:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "485fea3315144a5aa6a6bf8a204513e4",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: i guess that would imply for a legacy wallet that its future payment address cannot be p2pkh anymore",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:35:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1ec8dc7453e4424b9900949a1f7a41eb",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "I still feel like I don't fully understand the problem. We want to make sure that people implement bech32m forward-compatibly, so that they actually can send to all upcoming versions of native segwit outputs, but what is gained by artificially blurring the lines between them rather than having decent wallet logic to do either?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:35:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "10952cbbd478422587ae14a7bad0af9e",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: there are some p2pkh holdouts",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:35:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "db38f4cb2d4547fbb3ea1a06e83389e1",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "heh.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:35:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fab544309cbf44f19d51bba5c7cae6f7",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Murch: to me it's the other way around",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:36:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f79c4d8ef7a647b3a79f586bd3ac20b6",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "47% of all outputs are still p2pkh.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:36:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cedecc116bb9455e80fdaa9bec264ea5",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "we've artifically introduced a distinction in the address-request logic that should be wallet logic, between p2sh-segwit and other p2sh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:36:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "334fc5d9b1f244f0be59e3a28abfedf8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and i hope we don't continue that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:36:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "62a15695bce14aa9ad9dd79497b6ba89",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "I see",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:37:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "873cabfc6ba840ef917481fc07110904",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: I think that distinction is necessary in a wallet that operates on keys rather than descriptors",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:37:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d9a94deaf90c41b9aeb2d12cdf7d725f",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "But I guess my issue is that there are at least two different ways requests for addresses come to pass",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:37:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "33875ad26c584127ac5331fedaf01aa0",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: i think only for political reasons that we wanted to give people the option of not using segwit without explicitly opting in",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:38:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "41bc6c76983d4684b73aeef28bd11ac7",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "One: Sender tells receiver what address formats they speak, and receiver picks their preferred address from that set",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:38:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c258b1278f3a4778bcf4f85a2db8adf1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "not an indefensible choice, but kind of a pity in retrospect",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:38:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1be3672da4d44361950341f70c8a2889",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "two: Receiver wants to generate one specific type of address",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:38:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "99e7b50d0da14512aab4216596213e9e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "why would they want that?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:39:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "319a76623c2e411099cdfdaa6a4c84f1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(on a per address basis)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:39:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "54662c9441b049a9876c6d70bb002b37",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: I disagree. For segwit and taproot, when HWI gets a key, it doesn't know which addresstype to turn the key into",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:39:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "266820c003e94b9e9058b6436caa7464",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: sure, that needs metadata",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:39:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e24735f30dc249ff84f5ce8e73d4659f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "could be a descriptor itself",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:39:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c3f57c4c61814000b37c5c519739c6c1",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "E.g. to recover a Taproot descriptor after everyone has moved on to a segwit v2 default",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:40:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "22bf0e541afc4dc78740a47292451a24",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yes, use the descriptor if you need to be explicit",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:40:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b47963f5cb9641809e2089253214f71d",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "Oh, so there is another way to be specific.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:40:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2b79a1d3c0b14803b6fe1fa8ac9fd26f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think you're both talking about something that's a very different layer",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:40:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "de897f201084467c906d888e46b1664f",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "It does feel like that ^^",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:41:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bcfde4fd290549b49da61c8b6c3999de",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "this is purely about the question \"what does a wallet configuration look like?\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:41:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "867fe3b5ce3c41e48830012e0448caaf",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "is it a map from {legacy,p2sh-segwit,segwit,taproot,witv2} to descriptors",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:41:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d2e29064cbd74324b7e05872c26b0720",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "or is it a map from {base58,bech32,bech32m} to descriptors",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:41:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "97556d2126ab47a58bcaae449f9234c8",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "Yeah, but those two feel sort of orthogonal to me.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:42:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b26dfd86b68447d99a2b3e32f6a4f794",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "if you want a wallet that generates p2pkh addresses (and have the expertise to understand what that means)... construct a wallet with a p2pkh descriptor",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:42:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7b98b9b681144937a9b660270a27f9f6",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "okay",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:42:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e6248372c13646ceb9c85d034fff1b2d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "so if you want a wallet that generates v1 addresses for the bech32m type, make a wallet that only has a v1 descriptor",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:42:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5f8b833381884c2c9d3c0377f07f0a45",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:42:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3cca4eb5aa3e405a810c841bf943ff0d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "ok, that is reasonable to me. ACK on OutputType::BECH32M",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:43:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "069405cbd9e14c74a11d140fefa457fd",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "based on your reactions i feel like i'm turning this into a storm in a cup of water",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:43:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a2125fbe61d8483bb78a2436f5810e9e",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "I'm kinda confused, because the receiver doesn't usually control what the sender can send to. So the receiver usually needs to be able to downgrade to enable the sender to pay them.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:43:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d9e3f2f7f59a4f9a948e306c2219daaa",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(is that an idion in english?)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:43:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "82e3b3167cc541729c941d407314476c",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: I have never heard of that ideom",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:44:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e66e42164b4d427f8d1f3001a9567a11",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Murch: one wallet can have simultaneously descriptors for base58, bech32, and bech32m",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:44:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2c65ca2f18254f4ea284f6ab3f693194",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:44:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "58064402c2ad4801a7536fc6322575bf",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "in a teacup",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:44:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0b78e5a2fa5f46c3b09f670c65fab9cd",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "sipa: maybe storm in a teacup :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:44:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7c680d5ff74c40e6ac00030281806980",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Murch: I think this whole discussion is predicated on wallets properly supporting future witness versions in bech32m",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:44:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3f4a7a030a164e2991f733aeade2508e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and at address generation time you pick from those three (or even just the subset that is available; if you don't have a bech32m descriptor active, you can't generate an address for it)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:44:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4a242a6a433a4ae58a7407b3a8a52e47",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:45:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e441e690a73a42eb8c36d22f942ce169",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i'd hate to see wallets that are forced to have descriptors of a dozen types just because or API needs a way to generate one for every possible constructions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:45:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9404a252d8634f51a4f103d35faf7129",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "okay, I think I'm starting to get it.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:46:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "905f7538dbaf4e1085c7690b3e565847",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: right, agree - and if that fails, we may need to add yet another output type to distinguish",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:46:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "aa0bc2db955f47249e98ae4e7dd0a08c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but doing so IMO should be predicated on sender's abilities",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:46:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "109d93967c094b189044c80e8552ea9f",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: well for users who use the same wallet and just keep upgrading them, eventually they'll have a descriptor for ever supported witness version :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:46:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "87eb6dd3b12b470f93919a1f91a5cc86",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "we shouldn't turn every new descriptor into a new wallet type",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:46:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9025757fff8d4ca3aabeafa6ad1fe488",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: perhaps yes, that's fair",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:47:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d77f9845445a4a93866323b845645643",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jonatack, meshcollider: thanks, indeed!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:47:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f35c6c69d9444683aaa20d29e482fbf3",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "ok, any thing else to discuss?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:47:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f73643532d714ea5b0632bff1e765f04",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(in dutch we have the equivalent but in a glass of water)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:47:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2e23a916277348919c746cefcba45934",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "achow101: In a way, if Bitcoin Core handles it in a way that doesn't let users explicitly choose, it may become a driver for the sending side to interpret not being to send as a bug",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:47:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "502d9187a3654aa59e7135f0c3606170",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "I'm in favour of the base58/bech32/bech32m optioning after this discussion",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:48:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8e5c82d884994cf79bfde5fb7e6d41dc",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "I have one more topic related to descriptors",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:48:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "eee3cba3bc0248f8a69bd4afb7fc914b",
      "sender": "Murch",
      "payload": "alternatively, people will complain that Bitcoin Core's new wallets are incompatible, and they go back to using v0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:48:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fe670ba2f8004a619868fbc4d9319e39",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Murch: that's what descriptors are for",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:48:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4eb1f38c14174b2c8fb050fa0d7a88ed",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "they let you exactly configure what you want",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:48:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "185d8a0c0b6f4b659b81bfa853cfff8e",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "What do we do about combo() with taproot and future single key things?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:48:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9e11c26d8b8a43abbf5a6d7c25e2e47d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "Murch: I wonder if the current incompatibility is partially due to Core having that same behavior early on",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2021-03-12T19:49:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fd3ce4e07db54227bdc79fd76b101ebd",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Murch: bitcoin core wallet files store the descriptor, and the only supported way to backup, is copying the wallet file (and perhaps in the future, dumping just the descriptors)... in both cases, there shouldn't ever be incompatibilities",
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      "payload": "Not sure whether Bitcoin Core is used in enough transactions to have that sort of influence. Sometimes it feels that Bitcoin Core is more popular among hodlers. ;)",
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      "payload": "Did your survey say something about that?",
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      "payload": "if you try to \"recover\" a wallet from seed phrases or something like that without any metadata, that's bound to cause problems, but that's exactly a reason not to do that...",
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      "payload": "Murch: I haven't looked at the data yet",
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      "payload": "achow101: can you currently import a combo() descriptor?",
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      "payload": "And if a wallet actually supports sending to v1 but doesn't support sending to v2, you could still fall back to v0, if you only have v2 instead of v1 addresses in your wallet config.",
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      "payload": "(i.e. not used for getnewaddress)",
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      "payload": "i think we should see combo/addr/raw as kind of special top-level things, that aren't quite as supported as the rest",
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      "payload": "sipa: I guess the question is whether combo should make taproot single key spks",
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