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      "payload": "is any way to label with 0.21 milestone prs from the https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui ?",
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      "id": "be651635771848ff9ea81c48efb512d2",
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      "payload": "hebasto: there are no milestones there?",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
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      "payload": "wumpus: no milestones at all",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "emzy: would DNSSEC help there?",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I guess it would hide what results are returned from the DNS seed to the public internet",
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      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "wumpus: was for the last-minute topic list.",
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      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "perhaps #20220 which has fixes for 0.21 and on which the #19543 work is building",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:06:35+00:00"
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:06:37+00:00"
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      "id": "ee40c74f5f0e48f2b8417f75d91caf02",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "that's ok, you weren't clear about it being a proposed topic",
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      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "wumpus: it is mainly to add DNSSEC to the sipa seeds.",
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      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "wumpus: not hiding insted signing.",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "maybe #20205 should be added",
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      "id": "26eb56eaa5f44a49ab9ba361aa927126",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "right, DNSSEC authenticates it doesn't encrypt, my bad",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:09:03+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "14de67768b4445f39e1da1afe1bcf024",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "achow101: is that a bugfix?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:09:35+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "4f554adc8db44dfb90f0c00c283fdf9d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "wumpus: luke-jr argues it is.",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:09:49+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "978dae130ff3480288a332d16294b1f6",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "something about sqlite wallets need unique ids too to not cause problems in the future",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:10:23+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "25d26719a8a84b5fb4fa933b65f65a72",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "you might want to mention this in the PR description, it is currently unclear about the why of the change, in any case, added",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:10:24+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "hebasto: we definitely need to add the milestones there then",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:11:07+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "hebasto: I just created the milestones",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:11:12+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "hebasto",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: thanks!",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:11:23+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: perfect, thanks!",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:11:32+00:00"
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      "sender": "hebasto",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: possible candidates for 0.21 https://github.com/users/hebasto/projects/5",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:12:58+00:00"
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      "id": "c89dd3bba9a3455081fc8e073fb5fb22",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "okay, moving to emzy's topic",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:12:59+00:00"
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic DNSSEC setup for dnsseed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:13:13+00:00"
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      "id": "6f1705cded2f4b599c30f1390f773101",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "Ok. All new here for me to attend.. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:13:27+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "76b0136713af46ee8d9cac07a500a4c1",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "This is the issue https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19714",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:14:08+00:00"
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      "id": "49afc3974d0f4e62b613943590f09b4f",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19714 | ops: Enable DNSSEC on all Bitcoin DNS Seed domain names \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Issue #19714 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:14:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "414de50fc0424c97aa6da42f89da2a2a",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "It's about having DNSSEC on all dnsseeds. Sipas implementation has no dnssec so I made a setup to run it behind a Bind9",
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    },
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      "id": "2f483bbf1a6245c2b3066059ea46475a",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "The howto to set it up is here: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder/pull/85",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:15:44+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "neat",
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      "id": "cc4657857b794f1a941b2c35bfdb6b0f",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "nice emzy. Thanks",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:16:13+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "85cae99389ad42b0b9c53cfd39cad2ad",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Will it only work with bind?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:16:18+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "a5fa09d2164c430cb6918090b068b1b8",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Would there be the chance to get it working it djbdns?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:16:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7099e2876ed847d5bd3006e8e177a1e0",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "Someone needs to check it. I hope it is compleate.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:16:29+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "167b54bf81ae4e5782fb36807d286852",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "emzy: i'll read in more detail later, but how big a batch of IPs does it serve at any point in time?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:16:51+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "da657570c69a4870a84c7a9f03a70a0f",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: if djbdns allows dynamic updates. Yes.",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:16:54+00:00"
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      "id": "130a09a1ac1e4df89f72ed12acb1aa0e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(as in, how many get extracted from the seeder and pushed into zonefiles)",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:17:10+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "4f06df316e114da894ea81a4e70f647a",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "sipa: it clones the responce from your seeder.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:17:23+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "a90f0f1224b84d5081c573e2c60a5b04",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but a response only has 20 or so IP addresses",
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      "id": "0462170e52e34df18cd73c4db2e3461e",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "maybe better say caches it.",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:17:46+00:00"
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      "id": "ace6dbe1826644bb87f6ce90907b5704",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i hope it's not serving the same 20 for a whole day?",
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    {
      "id": "c860b5c8e7d74ae88be064dcc17be5e8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "if there was a way to load more of them into the zone file at once, would bind serve random subsets?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:18:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fe47286e98664e649776309c87346796",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "could be changed. but the ttl on the sipa seeder is also 1h",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:18:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f36d2126e42e4a70addf5ac76facef05",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "emzy: yes, but per request - every ISP gets different results",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:19:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "adcbd58ece4d42c38d2ca31d9e2f4f2c",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "ah I see.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:19:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "27426c74c0aa47308a20a095f7dbb077",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "practicalswift wants to avoid a \"bind monoculture\". What are the concerns with that?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:19:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "47618dd6af7746e7bbf2bb4d106c85c7",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "I could also request every minute or so. But every time it needs to be signed. So it can't be every request different.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:20:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "97316980aad14ad99e16506bb6578502",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wumpus: 20205 is a bugfix because otherwise sqlite wallets lack a unique id which bdb has provided until now",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:20:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "391cfe0300b54cbaae6517f1d6439bc4",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "michaelfolkson: there is still the dnsseed from bluematt",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:21:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "de6e0f80d72a40c1abd3398741df8e82",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "emzy: your doc has a cronjob in cron.daily",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:21:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7b95b02a7d99469abce34a72db4ea0e5",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "is that something else?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:21:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5c13a61df19d47f19d3adc8a6e257577",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: this unique id is there to detect loading the same wallet twice?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:21:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6b97fa295e184cd88441f270edc5715d",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "emzy: i think bluematt's dnsseed also uses bind",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "751f96c4dee14184bb389e7d56d7937e",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "sipa: thats wrong. I will fix that.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7865568cc6894d3fae684ad2e17c7fb7",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wumpus: to identify the same wallet even if renamed/moved/backedup/etc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "02615838c519492f829b984d4ee44339",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "emzy: if you'd load say 100 IP addresses in the zone file instead, would everyone get those 100 IPs on every request?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e3b85e0a025342108681b4e8be0f3749",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "sipa: wrong in my documentation. My seed has it in crom.hourly",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7328ed650d2c4659b43006735642e2f9",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "sipa: yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "410b88275d7d4455b1f87c4da8404858",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "382ae72307224cedb271e53770195a73",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wumpus: we *can* use it for a warning of loading it twice, but thats only one use case",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:22:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c44ab84aa778448294ffbf25d72e074b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "also 20025 doesn't actually prevent loading twice; it just adds an ID (iirc)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:23:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "430c207da6b14ab4a99052409a58a5d0",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: but I thought that was the one that was critical",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:23:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "204165c0bef64db99bc254fdcb2f0eba",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wumpus: my prune locks pr is an example of another use case",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:23:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "05e55bda767b4e508dec38f888cf1f0d",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: it was for BDB, due to environments being unable to load same db twice",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:23:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "25ad5aa8821f42dcb705b73ad5a6afdc",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "wumpus: loading duplicate sqlite wallets is not a problem. it's only an issue with bdb due to environment caching stuff",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:24:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0e803a52277f4dd6b5d27175cc235157",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "oh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:24:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b2cf095710df445fb0856909f7747861",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: in sqlite wallets there is no such constraint, but it may be useful at an application level",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:24:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "034bccdf8fdd4b6ab70c451e5414b9f3",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "Ah there have been past vulnerabilities in BIND",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:24:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d617427225cc4bafa036cfd53baba79f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "there is also no use for that currently in the codebase, but adding one is harder if old wallets don't have unique ids",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:24:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4fab54e8d8dc477eb1dfa94ac424ec03",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i'm not convinced it's very urgent, but it does seem harmless to add one",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:24:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f4e9e3ce6a2c4bb5b9b49510b3366aec",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "achow101: it can still be a problem due tio metadata divergence",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:25:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e45e08ee089345cdb56f55337d6acb15",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(correct me if i'm wrong on any of this)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:25:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "50e1593480bf45f7a21445022b91c623",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: it may be undesirable at an application level (though ryanofsky seems to disagree with that), but that's different from BDB which has an actual problem with it",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:26:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "df8f964e7b9244ac8151cdb53fb78094",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I think adding it cannot hurt in any case and it might come in useful",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:26:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dc7f821ed8d84754a356783e38374955",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:26:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1873c6cf3456474a92bf89914aec2cb2",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: yes imo we should at least warn but thats another pr",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:27:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1a0b9d7e58d9406db9f2e4ca97b5eaa9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: seems reasonable to me",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:28:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a64cb342dc54401783f8dc99f2526ddb",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "going from error to silently fine is not very good ux imo",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:28:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "091768d008c04e39adc6b6fac880baf3",
      "sender": "bitcoin-git",
      "payload": "[bitcoin] sushant-varanasi opened pull request #20224: doc: CI system link added, clarity increased (squashed into a single commit) (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20224",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:29:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0d7bdb7fc0b74b9cb00173d224602223",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "well, sqlite wallets are new; anything supported for them is whatever we declare is supported",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:29:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cfbe01f089be443fbf4473dfe03c1c9b",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "well \"silently fine *except* you may end up with divergent metadatat\" :p",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:29:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0f91f91710bd448fb91ebe41e6514730",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "release notes can state in which ways they are different from bdb wallets, which may include support for loading multiple copies",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:29:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "45a2f893b83d42db99de08b231285f56",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:29:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a89954eb09324404b50b0674747d4972",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i agree with at least warning",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:29:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e14a8450a22e401fae61e028308ed842",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: ideally users dont care about underlying db",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:30:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "770d8adfe95b45a2930a08b3cf67d804",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "(sorry laggy irc today)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:31:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "72b36ae3f7194182bd423121cf90ac72",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "any other topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:31:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "31a149bdf2d946668f7236cf80420b6e",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "changing the version number scheme?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:31:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c9e8af66d4214800aa4a50e812deead3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic Change version number scheme (achow101)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:32:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1894e30655ed4d9593bb644fbfef8904",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "it's about that time of year again to have users complain about our version numbers",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:32:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "98a67748cfc543a9a6abee5511317700",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I don't really feel strongly about it either way but a ok with it",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:32:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d5543e68a16a433ca29957856a633783",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "Good blog post from achow101 on moving to sqlite https://achow101.com/2020/10/0.21-wallets",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:32:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "82364df2a2a641649101b10d0d4ad593",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "so #20223 drops the leading 0.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:33:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "63ff570e81fb4620ac6b2bc452f9313b",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "lets keep semver at least\u00c3\u00a2\u00c2\u0080\u00c2\u00a6",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:33:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "89e83565840845dcb097bede384d8e7a",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20223 | Drop the leading 0 from the version number by achow101 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #20223 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:33:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b521687fa8874895ab0731802194178a",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "and makes our major version number actually the major version",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:33:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "409fa80ab58a408f96a50562a24edd80",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "concept ack",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:33:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7967da6eb33849d4a182e746c0813662",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "nobody really treats our 0 as a major version",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:33:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "025b22f563174b08bdab9bac54c3bdf3",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "and maybe people will stop asking for 1.0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:33:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6564f7e0446145bb89994d33f2b0901a",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "I'd rather just bump 0 to 1",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:34:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ea4f92ad9e9d4a3e8fbf3d7120944430",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "this should also be a purely cosmetic change since CLIENT_VERSION doesn't change",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:34:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "65beedbce5734bfba60cc4e168c4badf",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "why not?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:34:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "77f676af843c4725afe085d78e250540",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "1000000 * 0 is still 0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:35:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0c89dad2b07c441ca54f6d99935bc525",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: i'm afraid that'd be misinterpreted as an actual major step in development",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:35:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f22fd5737ba7438d83bb5e98a05d228c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "it also wouldn't solve anything",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:35:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d5f5fe9cc7df45b0b111ea0ba338b98d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "besides 'there is a zero at the beginning'",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:35:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "659d7350c5654f2db8c969eded233690",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "which i don't think this is; it's correcting for the fact that in practice our minor version number has turned into a conceptual major version",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:35:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5dd15d819a7c4eef84cbbd02477e3059",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: 1.21?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:35:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "97a2c13065e94bb1881293be57b480a5",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, that is the issue",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:36:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4b210ddcfbf74166a1ea1aaba9705862",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: and what would be next one be? 2.0 or 1.22?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:36:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6b199ee0cbba4aa78aa6f87878e7a145",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: but that 1 is meaningless like 0 is now",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:36:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e960de59b3624dd38d43266f0db262cc",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(the \"next\" one as in what would otherwise become 0.22)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:36:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "706701a368e14d59b923cebdf7399ed5",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "having a static 1 at the beginning would be the same as a 0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:36:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "62c17568ddcf43bbb4a8c0984ee618d2",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:36:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "04ca3da25c53413cbe881c3889cffc15",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: indeed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:36:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b14cb084c9a64bd586e5fb228b769b82",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: I don't agree\u00c3\u00a2\u00c2\u0080\u00c2\u00a6 major versions rarely reach 20+\u00c3\u00a2\u00c2\u0080\u00c2\u00a6",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:37:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "85b986c1f89644efb5ab7926db567e9a",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: next could be 1.22 or 2.0 depending non what we think its significance is",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:37:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "73d032d0ea1c4a75bb1a0f6566cf98cd",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "on*",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:37:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "001dfbb0e0a945328550089044d9c10f",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "Could cause some limited confusion with references to previous 0. versions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:37:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "90d981aa81924585836243dd4d2a8a6e",
      "sender": "jonatack",
      "payload": "I found the versioning mildly unusual at first, nevertheless am unsure it's worth fixing at this point",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:37:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bfaa2089d55843aa913c125907bde892",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "that's not how it works with our project",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:37:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3224ef1b77e74a468ee88d117a38abed",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: and yet here we are with a version number that's ostensibly major at 21",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:37:52+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we don't judge significance of versions and have a fixed release schedule",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:38:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5fd9de0b464445ab8ae90b6df3298337",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "achow101: but it really isnt",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:38:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d02e3c8d331a4df285fa581d391ce926",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "I feel having a high number in front of the dot is more marketing related.",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:38:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0c13babe18db40caaab55fc588c0143c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "if we change the version scheme it should be to better reflect what we're actually doing",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:38:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5e2a220249c34fbbbcc11c048c251c20",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "Replace questions on when 1.0 with questions on what happened from 0.21 to 22.0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:38:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cdb26c39c125408f850112b67de3ab32",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: we call it a major release..",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:38:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "401a784266154f4eba57ae5b3cde07cf",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "not what other projects are doing",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:38:56+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "bugfixes increment the 3rd int",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:39:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ccd20f588fe7415fbebd3ad002f85eb8",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "michaelfolkson: but that's way easier to explain",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:39:18+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: if we'd actually also switch to releases that are based on magnitude of changes, but i don't think that's what we're doing",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:39:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9b6813a64a2149138a1e7537944d4677",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "our numbers are already just an indication of time",
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    },
    {
      "id": "cbdc993536b341f6bcd73391d4c96e78",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "magnitude would only determine 2.0 vs 1.22",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:39:58+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "bitcoin-git",
      "payload": "[bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/88271184e822...9453fbf5a022",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:40:33+00:00"
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      "sender": "bitcoin-git",
      "payload": "bitcoin/master 6ed4bca Hennadii Stepanov: qt: Wrap tooltips in the intro window",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:40:34+00:00"
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      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:40:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b25f44e2eb744a9abe0dc744e4829425",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "it's not like versions are the release schedule",
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    },
    {
      "id": "cd0e106e6d6843acbea2ba533d6f7843",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we do not classify versions by magnitude, the whole reason for proposing to remove the 0. would be to get rid of that illusion (for some people) once and for all",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:41:20+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "c5e228cd22fd451a809977f639a995bc",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: there are software with high major versions. e.g. pip",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:41:21+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "firefo",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:41:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "58f065a14ea8494b8537d408ff854460",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "https://bitcoincore.org/en/lifecycle/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:41:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bd5296136fa746299ea60129e7450cbb",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "chrome",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:41:54+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "e23e2872448642bdbe61ef9f2375ac3e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "Bitcoin Core releases are versioned as follows: 0.MAJOR.MINOR, and release candidates are suffixed with rc1, rc2 etc.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:41:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d116e6b308aa42789c6fb5a2703ae0a0",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "We aim to make a major release every 6-7 months.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:41:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "426ba438ec474d3f82bc193d11503d22",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wumpus: well thats what versions are for",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:42:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f423c42270124a22844d9bf850df33ca",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: not in this project",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:42:32+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "9c51ffd69e004026849ea59723280f98",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sigh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:42:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "39d78ee71a7942e39bd0c1cca04415e8",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "then everything should be 1.x forever",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:43:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "99027bbdc6aa4c478313571df10361cc",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "then that's just as meaningless",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:43:47+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "55ec315d73a24f5bbc1b6798c6cf4ce3",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "that's no better than 0.x forever",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:43:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bf65573c1513473d95cfee2e8a2d4557",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "and then we'll get questions about for when 2.0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:44:08+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "a1220075178846b7919320d125b27e5b",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "going in circles now",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:44:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b74ee1fc2233487bb15794ac5e5a9711",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "either we should classify or not\u00c3\u00a2\u00c2\u0080\u00c2\u00a6 -.-",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:44:22+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "2ae21e70a4604b1a832c7d4e721b308c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we don't and we won't, the only proposal is to remove a useless 0. that pretty much everyone already leaves out anyway",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:44:55+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "a00947b215a349f39b10bed7246728a5",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "do we want it for this release or the next?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:45:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "010edebad5314c02a65f81fac291a5b5",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "it's not useless and people leaving it off should stop so long as it's  there",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:45:42+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "this is too late for 0.21 imo",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:45:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "454e1d247042451dbe1d348b812a40e0",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I don't see any reason to push this last minute",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:45:58+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sure",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:46:04+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "7219338a059449f68f049640072f2103",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: they won't stop given that it's meaningless",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:46:06+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "dc0f7623bcd340efb01be625598db559",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "our versioning scheme is literally 0.MAJOR.MINOR; the 0. serves no function",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:46:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4add16ad78ed414cad73580d6b00355c",
      "sender": "fjahr",
      "payload": "Major versions means breaking API changes. If we say breaking API changes are breaking consensus changes in Bitcoin wouldn't it make sense to keep 0.x until we have to do a hardfork? I know that's not how people think of the versioning but I think that would make sense.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:46:32+00:00"
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "fjahr: Core and Bitcoin are different things",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:47:27+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "4471503032e643188c6e8c33ba32fc23",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "no, the versioning ahs nothing to do with forks and hardforks",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:47:35+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: exactly",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:47:44+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "firefox's versioning scheme is not based on which HTML version they support",
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      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:47:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fd0653d229fe4cc8a73d269a3239b19e",
      "sender": "fjahr",
      "payload": "ok",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:47:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fde0513fa3c648b1afe38f73244d5dd7",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "I thought it was an interesting idea fjahr",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:48:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "167ce7d197614852832df938c01a638b",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "fjahr: then we'd be on version 5 or something like that with the changes satoshi made early on",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:48:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ceddce7c8c9841259bfe1cb698815298",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: its really 0.minor.bugfixi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:48:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d2922982081e4e3fbaf98d9ba9c570cb",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: it's on our site",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:48:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e291f5e8e59746f9965ab62b00adb183",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "then the site is wrong",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:48:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6951afe6124345058ff54204f054dd47",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: we refer to every 0.x release as a major release",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:48:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e744df6052a145d98d79f86b47028a1e",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "so 21.0.bugfix,l 22.0.bugfix?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:49:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2e29f389ade2417aa35db59db089c749",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "looks silly imo but at least it can make some sense2\u00c3\u00a2\u00c2\u0080\u00c2\u00a6",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:49:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c27f01fe45dd45a781bcb02ea8af604d",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "Ditching the zero assumes we will *never* have a use for it. Any reason for redundancy here however fanciful?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:50:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "464145dff274412da7b14581bfcf2269",
      "sender": "emzy",
      "payload": "luke-jr: there was a 0.19.0.1",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:50:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6559298ca6324d9d91f73f11c072fb94",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "emzy: I'm aware",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:50:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e3355e43ea74416c9a5916e26c8cc5fb",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "michaelfolkson: that's exactly the problem",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:50:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "61d6dc55a97542f69a3656bd4fe81b5a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "michaelfolkson: nobody has an answer to the question \"what would constitute something worthy of a 1.x release\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:50:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "87127bd6bf434c20ad120f3a2603c53a",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:51:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9f0406e81cdb4f368f8b8d424e8ded9a",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "we should really be past 1.0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:51:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "06d4fed0b2564d358eac4427c0537d44",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yes, we do a major release every 6-7 months!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:51:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c5a59bb3a54a48c0a95b4ec196b0b92c",
      "sender": "michaelfolkson",
      "payload": "If the redundancy is entirely unnecessary for all possible future scenarios I think get rid of it. Just so this discussion doesn't keep coming up (assuming there are no downsides other than a little user confusion)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:52:45+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "if its not major enough to get 1.0, it's not major ;)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:52:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e17ebc4b7b514243b9747ff4ad599a43",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: circular reasoning gets us nowhere",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:53:06+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "7d004fdfd93b4a6b989f8d0426a5362e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "michaelfolkson: I agree",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:53:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "70dc4487341e4ec48ce50ba9a85aea74",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: circular?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:53:26+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "7b271999a5af4c83ae2b7eea5d10c625",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "1.0 is no more importwant that 22.0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:53:46+00:00"
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      "id": "c14f8ce0b42d429b85c9bac692089eb1",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "michaelfolkson: that would be the only reason to do it, really, in the end it's just a number and doesn't matter that much, there's no strong reason to change anything",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:53:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f099303329dc4508b73e00adf955a790",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: 1.0 has a meaning to dumb humans",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:54:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8bea3c4f147343a6bb0e4b8adbba50bc",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "if we can't do 1.0 because its not important enough, it shoouldnt be 22.0 either",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "1.0 is a magic number even if it shouldn't be",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:54:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a6ca188d3baf4e2781f000fa47d7e91e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think none of this matters",
      "action": false,
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    {
      "id": "c26df3f67f5e414cb1df608990fdc5ac",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "it won't be 2 years later",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:54:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "698cfa41e1714c349cb62673bb35b6a1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "our release process is around time-based releases, and our version numbers _are_ time-based too",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:55:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ab3cebd87e0643fbbf546176fb33742a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "however much you'd like that to be different, the number X in 0.X.Y doesn't mean anything else but \"the series of stable releases forked off at a point in time depending on X\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:56:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "65fe334440fa4151b8313fda583b49fb",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "then do a calendar version like Ubuntu? :/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:56:16+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "I prefer semver, but at least we should use some stabdard\u00c3\u00a2\u00c2\u0080\u00c2\u00a6",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:56:32+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "3553a733542f4b22966039631189f55a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "5 minutes to go",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-10-22T19:56:53+00:00"
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