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      "payload": "I'm planning to tag -final soon then, it's good to get this release out of the door",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic backport of wtxid versus alternative (jeremyrubin)",
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      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "Hmmm well it seems we lost suhas a moment ago",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "the backport is #19606",
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19606 | Backport wtxid relay to v0.20 by jnewbery \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19606 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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      "payload": "and the alternative is #19620",
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      "id": "76c45c4e62bd491c8ac40667a1ee9d1d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "right ^^",
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      "id": "86e472821580465692a06a689ccdf496",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it isn't really an alternative - they're both independent improvements that should both go in master",
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Does it make sense to ship wtxid in 0.20 before it is shipped in 0.21?",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wb sdaftuar",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:11:53+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "244ec826a7ca4a2a9d8f4149cc26f78f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so I think the question is which one (or both) to backport to 0.20",
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "It's not exactly a bugfix and it might come with risks",
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      "id": "f5bc8a78119540e3ad6764820b9d6818",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but i think that one is sufficient to remove concerns about deploying new segwit softforks",
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      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "is it correct to say they're backport alternatives?",
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      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "#19606 is actually quite a straightforward backport. Most of the conflicts are trivial.",
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      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19606 | Backport wtxid relay to v0.20 by jnewbery \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19606 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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    {
      "id": "c23349cc94d345369f5aa39739fdca03",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "I thought we figured out we didn't strictly need either?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:12:21+00:00"
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      "id": "10f2ab42e1514998934913e07246f347",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: I think that's a good point, might make sense to include wtxid relay only in the 20.x release after 21.0",
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      "id": "0067574ee56d4dd98a767a47d463e783",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "The biggest difference is removing the unbroadcast stuff, which was only merged after v0.20 forked, but even that's pretty limited in where it interacts with the rest of the code",
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      "id": "061f8f35b048478d967746568a2349fb",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "Out of curiosity, can we backport either easily to a 19.x? Would that matter?",
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      "id": "16906c856a7b489c9e9202fd51ccc04d",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "(so long as the policy changes were left for 0.21+)",
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      "id": "fefd0097296141c78157990452990f2f",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "sorry my connection is super laggy right now. but i assume we could easily backport #19620 to any recent release",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:14:16+00:00"
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19620 | Add txids with non-standard inputs to reject filter by sdaftuar \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19620 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:14:17+00:00"
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      "id": "bf9cbd6949dd49cb82997b7df91340f7",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "luke-jr: it would be nice to have less dependency though on when policy changes are advisable",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:14:35+00:00"
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      "id": "227e76b57ba34665bec107c03b6d83b8",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "hm 0.19 backport would be much more work (code differs more) and gets much less testing",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:14:38+00:00"
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      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "sdaftuar's patch seems to be really simple compared to wtxid relay",
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    },
    {
      "id": "f8c1be254e6746248437adb9dc70607b",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "my opinion is that there's no strong reason not to backport wtxid relay to 0.20. It should be a trivial review for anyone who reviewed it on master, and we want wtxid relay to be widely deployed independent of taproot",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:15:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "43bec0eff53b49deb524098d851ebcb3",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "I think 19620 is independently good and should also be backported",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:15:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f1f20c10e70247058e2ecf4b8dca658b",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "maybe backport both to 0.20, sdaftuar patch to 0.19?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:15:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7c216b16c52f4c5cbb2416de110e86dd",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "anyway i definitely wanted wtxid relay to be part of 0.20, so i think jnewbery is right to say the backport isn't terrible, but backporting p2p features isn't something we usually do",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:15:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5897cfd697e549ccb8002967866bdbac",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: considering we don't need it for Taproot(consensus), is there another reason you want wtxid relay in 0.20?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:16:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f0f32560c4fb44c2866cbefed445d8f9",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "I guess the question which I'm uncertain enough is how big of a deal is it going to be for 0.19.x nodes if taproot rolls out and they have no protections",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:16:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "07658d0770f94736b5cf8cf4f6e62d9e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we can make an exception to normallly not backporting p2p features as it's requirement for taproot",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:16:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a7fbd720b66d4aa5bf86fc952d1bca0e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "which will also be backported",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:16:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "aaa8ba466ff44f31bbfa165df671d41f",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "we normally backport activations, hence this yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:16:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ab26bde95bf0496bb73abb7f343fdd7e",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "luke-jr: i'm not sure i do want it in 0.20 now, i just meant when i wrote it back in january, i had been hoping it would make the 0.20.0 release :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:16:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "27ddcb3e3ac84e52906bfc901dd19fd0",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "ah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:16:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a905254ccbab4034838275ede9f923f5",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "19620 should be a trivial backport to 0.19 (it's only 10-20 lines of code changed). I don't think we should backport wtxid relay to 0.19",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:17:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e493f7b8557b469da9c1a03e0cad3705",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "luke-jr: sipa seemed to be exceptionally frustrated when i suggested that last week, so while possible maybe better to not plan to do that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:17:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bcbcfe9b105449c88e8c18998c34ccf1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: what do you mean by that? it would require some rule that taproot-capable nodes don't relay such transactions to older peers",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:17:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5f2db2f6ae8c48dbb88ba027fa895c5f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "which is a possibility, but i think just backporting #19620 is a lot simpler",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:17:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "158bd91a5b564da7a8d93f8daab9f94c",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19620 | Add txids with non-standard inputs to reject filter by sdaftuar \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19620 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:17:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7f81e56275224f039cf853e90d88df1e",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: I mean we can deploy Taproot(consensus) independently from / in parallel to Taproot(policy)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:17:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b6def0cfcdae4ee4a6a69f91bb01686f",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "the former is going to take at least a year anyway, so 0.21 will be mature by the time it activates",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:18:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6f53762d672f464bbd9b4e90459df6e3",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: sure... but that won't protect old nodes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:18:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e001859cc04b473cb1f0a27a699cba33",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "jnewbery: that sounds good to me as an actionalble plan forward. Is it enough that 0.19.x nodes with the patch won't get bad dos?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:18:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2b1be64b739e4ab297ec514bd874df23",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(by the time things actually start being relayed, from whatever codebase)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:18:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "47331b3849d84ec08900cf1f33dc5e64",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: that's true no matter what release we put it into?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:19:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2c7c32a43e4042ffa78ce500715de203",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: yes, fair - but at least there could easily be a 0.20 and 0.19 perhaps with 19620 in it, so people who don't want to immediately upgrade to a new major version would have an option",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:20:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7a85f0a1dc5d4c318c8cb1b446702cdd",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "honestly i'm not super concerned about bandwidth waste to old nodes. it's better to not waste bandwidth, of course, but i think if people have a couple alternatives to avoid it (upgrade to latest minor release or major release) it's not a big deal",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:20:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "37f0cf2eb89b4850b6ba8ac0405fa65f",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: I agree",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:20:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a779f116c2364976996c72a9c4c638ab",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I agree too",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:20:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dd67402c6cda43469d75c81f14860e9a",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: I'm not opposed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:20:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "85bd118462bc483b9acacb52ce651100",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "ok",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:20:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8223ef039f0b4910958b4e7583ab2aaf",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "0.18 is EOL in Feb next year, Taproot won't activate before then, probably",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:20:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "06c6ecf8935a4eac84bca175795a8fc9",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "so if we backport 19620 to 0.19, anyone on a supported version has a minor release they can upgrade to",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:21:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "54a3916fa7404600a676fada0d7fc2f9",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:21:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "22cdf22615fe48c8b9d6be29971a9a45",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "I also agree with this to an extent, but I think there are probably some older node users who would be noisy, and I wouldn't want that to translate into opposition to other development work on later versions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:21:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1c0c70e73e0c49e5a16a1d42ccf18d3e",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "jnewbery: I don't think anyone can complain about that plan",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:22:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b5226a2a9f074eb59e8941f1d4a0039a",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "they can just put an upgraded node in between their old node and the network",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:22:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d647e463fd934913a8d830e154b4f1b2",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah, seems reasonable to me",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:22:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f6a249de59494ee69eeb89fd75c43989",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: if someone insists on using a pre-0.19 version, they can fund longer-term maintenance thereof..",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:22:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7e2aa132a7d44d7d9fbbba383e3de65c",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "or what sdaftuar suggested",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:22:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "805e31fc4ead46c48eacfc4ad3291199",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "of course, i don't think we have obligations to maintain EOL versions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:22:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8a62557935b740a98965a78478dd6f85",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "When is EOL for 0.19?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:24:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4705bdae0ab94c9cad441382fc6ced07",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so the plan is to backport  #19606 to 0.20 and #19620 to 0.19 and 0.20?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cea78eea88cb4d52b8a8f13d0634cc93",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19606 | Backport wtxid relay to v0.20 by jnewbery \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19606 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ebc267986db14b38896424be9734a06f",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19620 | Add txids with non-standard inputs to reject filter by sdaftuar \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19620 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e3be801af6e84cbfb94ad75fce91c558",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "should be a little while I think?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ea2e238e75914627b65c8f95fb3e9c46",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "wumpus: sounds good to me",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "df98b1ca685f4443b06128224410473c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "okay!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9b824206f65d404da57e46105e39d088",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "0.17 is 2020-08-01 eol",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "00929bea3822462e8b4a1c2a754841d1",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "soon(TM)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f98942f13d6f40bb9253112d295ae2a5",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "sounds good",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:25:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b775f6a6483f4890aaf2db6353c2f2d7",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "sounds reasonable if wtxid relay (and followups) are easy to do in 0.20",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:26:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e38f0fe5f3024b9b9785d2186a41a37c",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "isn't 0.19 unsupported when 0.21 is released?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:26:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "205eae7233e94ee98d8037a059bdcfde",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "sipa: good point about followups",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:26:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "27541741aea842f089400b5ac9c7f573",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "I think we could change that to be the policy going forward, but https://bitcoincore.org/en/lifecycle/ says otherwise",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:26:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d772994ad7bf4dee96c7350e73325f8d",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "random thought: should the bitcoincore twitter account announce when major releases go unsupported/EOL ?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:26:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "053af4d9f8b7425ab79de7c2a211e2a4",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "i think your pr about orphan fetching just got conflicted due to a refactor that was merged",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:26:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "999d6549e9f94878890bdeff29ef46f4",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "\"maintenance end\" I think luke-jr",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e4de38f2ef81425c936599b0c515e01b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: will fix soon, seems trivial",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7d153003f9bf4ce78985846c36a944ea",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "im reading the website",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "687295040cb648df873278fd73b4253c",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "so perhaps we should highlight the followup prs that would be backported as well?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f28a091f4ba94d90bea94672415b7451",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "instagibbs: yeah, me too - it's not clear when EOL is",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6dbde2ee9925456bae89add96dda4229",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "(if more than one)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1abf1a5e39e146feb30ecc8bbe62c918",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "0.19 eol is after 0.22",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e20ace770a154388a908039931694287",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "eolAfter EOL, users must upgrade to a later version to receive security updates, even though the community may provide fixes for critical issues on a best effort basis.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:27:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "840cc29e259d4565ba2e2eebe33637e8",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "i think maintenance is more what we're considering",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a98f4ec021b74d32b6138ce2b3b260b8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "so wtxid relay is #18044 #19590 #19569... anything else?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bc2bbc726c2144fc9f4c204807059eab",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18044 | Use wtxid for transaction relay by sdaftuar \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #18044 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5fbec1794d6644668f3a1a4fbd7f0962",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19590 | p2p, refactor: add `CInv` transaction message helpers; use in net processing by jonatack \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19590 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e0f04e3ef93344c781fe3cadd9921a6e",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19569 | Enable fetching of orphan parents from wtxid peers by sipa \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19569 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ad3e08f82cf74b2195e85d40ab382b31",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sipa: seems fine to me, though in general I don't like urging people to upgrade unless there's a security problem",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "05516356a6414994816e989a944997e0",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "sipa: yes, it'd be good if the twitter account announced EOLs",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "319769ff38ce46b39623b9de44a428fb",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "instagibbs: true, this isn't a critical issue",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "353e6e79ad644a86bd519fe9a0c2b843",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "I don't think 19590 needs to be backported",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:28:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5ab85df9f1704f54824a275fca8eb224",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "we can just take the existing 19569 branch before you rebase it on that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:29:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c51c5e50b04b422098ba36595216b47d",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "jnewbery: it'll make 19569 easier to backport due to the conflicts i think?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:29:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0b2ef9e50c914df89adf6d723168dccd",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jnewbery: it doesn't, but it would make the master and backported version of 19569 somewhat different",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:29:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0a67c0cb674b4c8da02431dd8eb03aff",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "it's really tiny...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:29:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9bbf10b2681d4dc199ab6e8832cbd514",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "okay",
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      "id": "6ed704c614e944249b172208438d5e66",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i don't think there are any major disagreements here",
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    },
    {
      "id": "e5f6800b15d1455180c465343509b06d",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "if you backport #19748 it will take care of the memory overhead from the new wtxid index, but far from required",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:30:01+00:00"
    },
    {
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      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19748 | HTTP Error 404: Not Found",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:30:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "689ca74644c54b70861af1f4e4a21f01",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "#19478",
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    },
    {
      "id": "c8ec2c332e4643cdbf01b459d47f48d1",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19478 | Remove CTxMempool::mapLinks data structure member by JeremyRubin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19478 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:30:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a6880dd4429142d380bd8b9ce16e1254",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "any other topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:30:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5688227d6267494f812e1b35474fe8ff",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "if we're agreed that #19606 should go in, then can I encourage anyone who reviewed #18044 to look at it soon, while the original PR is still fresh for them",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:31:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ed746a137de645cd852b375453ef39d8",
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19606 | Backport wtxid relay to v0.20 by jnewbery \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #19606 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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      "id": "325e7c2dcb744042bb159efd57b0ec44",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18044 | Use wtxid for transaction relay by sdaftuar \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #18044 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:31:48+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "38968b603e9848ce9a84fd64c7a609f2",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "it'll make review easier",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:31:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8fcd0c674f9440f4b82c1d9a9bd9e1b1",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "no point in hanging around if we want to get it in",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:32:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "40a2a6c67835436d87a1aa4d89e2793e",
      "sender": "bitcoin-git",
      "payload": "[bitcoin] darosior opened pull request #19630: Refactor fee estimation code (master...20/07/refactor_feeest_code) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19630",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:33:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3993f8a96330470492652f2b9b6496a0",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "wait is it going into the upcoming minor?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:33:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5d30f356f7134074b5b987944a349a02",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "I thought it's the next 0.20 minor?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:33:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c777edee364c48339efe20651d1a8b9d",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "And should it be released before 0.21? That would imply that 0.20.x users are testing the 0.21.0 release",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:34:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "45d2302eac294d0ab17da4223c1249d9",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: Not in the one that is rc right now",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:34:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9e548ca914f341c09b40fb7f212a8cd8",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: no. 20.1 already has an rc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:34:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a9dee796da384efe8a12fd0df624ef41",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "that's what I thought, was confused by the 'get it in'",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:34:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8f1654846615413ea3f48e241a943e25",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "will review",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:35:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "73d8aa69140e49afb98131ad768bb01d",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: are you suggesting that the 0.20.x that has wtxid-relay should be held until 0.21 is released?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:35:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bd5d2e3d7fd547cdae88e4713a169109",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, that's what he suggests",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:36:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e3c1b23dd4b1487d99f61f076e259e20",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: I am asking if we should",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:36:19+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fd79f59f736e498092249fb096b331cd",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I think it makes sense",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:36:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6223194b42f44c7cb4494fa6259e1fb1",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "I think it should release whenever it's appropriate maybe? Because isn't there a benefit to having deeper backport penetration before 0.21 launches?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:36:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "371b46f0ac854ba9b7d1740b22fb81c4",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "that seems reasonabel to me as well, i hadn't consideredt hat",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:36:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "458e22046f014f2eb66aed15df799400",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "i think we should get the other mitigation in sooner though",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:36:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "87fb7d2c29f04be9a3d9762706817256",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Not saying we must, but something to consider",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:36:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8af56786d4d140559d27114e8f691b57",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: definitely, it's different for the other one as it's not a feature",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:37:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ab099eb2c2ae46ac903fb0e57adf9317",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "what about plugging in sdaftuar's minor mitigation into the one into current rc? Or is that bad to disrupt that flow?",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:37:35+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "7334cfc19ee64d498bab26134a604e08",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "no",
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    },
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      "id": "a151de9f882f43319ecac8683a757319",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: it has 0 acks i think!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:37:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "38151298435d4d178e58d6065a927bb8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think that would a serious violation of process",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:37:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a0e3d7b2c2e74c77880e402b772422b0",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "there is no bug to be fixed here",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1e602486b744489f91ada7b7e1d67efb",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and no regression in the release",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "396fdd0e625840cb8f529f72e8257cfc",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and it's not even in master!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "782590231b4b462db41e522ce1d0ebd7",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "one could argue wasting bandwidth is a bug",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fd9228a30b4b4f59852ef83fde88cf90",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "0.20.1 is done, we've just decided that in last topic, it's reasonably urgent to get it released and ther ehave been no cricital problems, and anyhow, what sipa says",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:47+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "158739e432ca4cda812f77dd0340f536",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "no bandwidth is being wasetd now though",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:49+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "fa98f8d9cfb04dad8089ef63253085be",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "well",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e5aa697a98ab43378435882e3a2059ed",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "it's not a regression except for the fact other nodes will be doing different behavior someday",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:56+00:00"
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      "id": "24b1c5d41db3433e981caefc3da071df",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "you know hwat i mean",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:57+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "fe6a2e0139ef4c5bb398b7d8c9af0398",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "maybe",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:38:57+00:00"
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      "id": "adba97913ae24d4086f5c19b53bf5a1b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it can go in 0.20.2",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:39:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "03f7ea24bb7c41d4ae5667138e81731a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:39:13+00:00"
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      "id": "766e442e727c4d5caa4e55980f087a87",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "yeah i dont think there's a rush there",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:39:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3a9a84518be64b9dafb6967899724626",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "agree",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:39:20+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "agree with sipa",
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      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:39:23+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "94ea2d1e600c49f09acb9d84dfad0d8e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "again, please do not try to rush things",
      "action": false,
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    },
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      "id": "bbd14547aa4e49ff9fe0c2002b80dbae",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "agree with marco",
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      "id": "4cc72d8e219b4c9b9413a3de3f2a5b16",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "I'm just trying to understand sdaftuar's comment that the mitigation goes in sooner",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:39:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d71ecd64223e4e1bbb6be723ff526381",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "into 0.20 branch",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:39:36+00:00"
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      "id": "2c8a856b2d524e709570a7f40573ad61",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "ah I thought you were meaning a 0.20.3 and 0.20.4 which seemed excessive",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:40:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5c7043f39dbc43b4b9ecaab643070f6f",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "I don't think it matters that much which order they get merged into the 0.20 branch. 19620 is so tiny that conflicts aren't an issue whichever order things happen",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:40:36+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "61cbac0ee6e5456e8162424848553cb7",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "jnewbery: that's good to know",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:40:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f5f29f7ed9904256bb14a33757fb5e40",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "jnewbery: i interpreted the delay of 0.20.x with wtxid-relay as a suggestion to hold off on the merge",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:41:00+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "0f3c1fb1328445bc8b469dda04f0fead",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "in case we needed another 0.20 minor release",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:41:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7c85a2c7b0d544e79b1c6a8a6689ac06",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "My comment earlier about reviewing now was more about people reviewing when wtxid hasn't been paged out of their memory. Nothing about changing or rushing process",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:41:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f41461dac423412e94affc73db357a7a",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "and i was thinking that in that event, we might as well get the other mitigation out there since it's pretty easy",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:42:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0d48f8129717475fb8a49c93a1e58616",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "but if it interferes with the normal 0.20.x release process, then there's no problem waiting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:42:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c45099985937424281fbfa63373c493e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jnewbery: that makes sense",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:42:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ee921abb668a48968b60a02f0c92a2a5",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Jup, good to have the backport open already, so that it can get review, but no rush in merging it",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:42:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8dc98c42501c41b6b1e6bbe27430ff22",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i can't remember if we ever made that consideration before - that a feature would appear in a backport release before a new major release",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:42:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "25de5be5495f496db4a95001e74c4c4f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "new features in backports are arguably rare in any case",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:43:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fa4cfc0d1aa641688d6f20b6199b6a53",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "I mean is wtxid relay really a feature or a architectural mitigation? You could argue it belonged in 0.13...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:44:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "de13bd61920a4015841bb530f4092fbd",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "feature",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:44:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2dd7a58d71374408b54e26d21e44ad61",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "I don't think such semantic distinctions are very interesting. It's a large code change",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:44:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "229110765145469ca10a9903c00ddc3b",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "anyway i think we have a plan forward?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:44:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ce342917e66a4c2988e76b67701b74a9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think so",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:45:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9c3c8219b2694687bca76855c20139e6",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:45:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "90edcb6021a0421ea9317a6b8508080f",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "i'll make some backports",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:45:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "38f392c64b494929b102d0548abdc44f",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "great",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:46:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ccf3a0b8311345b192c14bdbe6243350",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: you mean 19620->v0.20 and 19620->v0.19?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:46:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4c8646bbf773403091d4635bce328b96",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:46:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "320b04b94b694979b27aefa6b1dbf307",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "thx for biting the bullet on wtxid-relay :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:46:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d4878ff5ec144cf7acd1ae223cbc9b95",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: of course. It wasn't actually that bad",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:47:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3e8eee42dc3648b0b3d1b985c25b342f",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "+1 fast work!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:47:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6a4b2426221f4f798ff00de6ae1d70bb",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "any other topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2020-07-30T19:48:09+00:00"
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