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    "lightningbot": 2,
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    "gleb": 1,
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    "jeremyrubin": 5,
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  "start_time": "2019-08-22T19:03:23+00:00",
  "end_time": "2019-08-22T19:30:33+00:00",
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  "original_topic": "Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | This is the channel for developing Bitcoin Core. Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics https://gist.github.com/moneyball/071d608fdae217c2a6d7c35955881d8a",
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "#startmeeting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:03:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8da4a6a6703744a2a8e2a117555f95fc",
      "sender": "lightningbot",
      "payload": "Meeting started Thu Aug 22 19:03:23 2019 UTC.  The chair is jonasschnelli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:03:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "06b32a6455ab44e69f0a8fd31f120ad1",
      "sender": "lightningbot",
      "payload": "Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:03:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a8294b3524e1418ebab1e550d3f71dad",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "There are no proposed topics",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:03:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "52c4d1cd77b4490085fea835d1f3ad44",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "(so far)",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:03:55+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "cdc5cd9a3a104aa98d0950de1cc1015a",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "#bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:04:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "05d679c7d07b4e3a8ab8a3444e1b5ad9",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "#topic high priority for review",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:04:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9d9c4bc70cdc4194ba74ae626002f95c",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:04:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "be9cbb1bf7584582b0a0cb5c75d20750",
      "sender": "gleb",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:04:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f27d03b544f94343832965d3112a2c68",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Anything to change?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:04:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "50b4984021a643efaee707ca1323a027",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:04:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dcc46e175972490aa018c8794da0915f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "test",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:05:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "12fa589dd2374cad89a05aa82ad690a9",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "pong",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:05:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b8843063c1af4ba4b64edca19a6652a6",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "wow, i'm visible now?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:05:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "810c503e58aa47a3b9d0dedbc63428c2",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "wumpus: Yep",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:05:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "30579e3be107447d8efe37a3575256ff",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "apparently I wasn't authenticated with freenode so no one was seeing my messages? this was really strange\\",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:06:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "11129de8225a4f51a080e58e6edfbcb4",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "was already surprised why the meetingstart bot wasn't working",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:06:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "683622bb8d644dcc8546c4e7eb93b739",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "how long has wumpus been shouting into the void?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:06:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "064ae29b585c49ee99dee5d3bfae41e2",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "heh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:06:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8e56ad3d926f4e9cbd207d19d45762e0",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "provoostenator has had similar issues before I think",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:06:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a193032883964c0ea19b2c5881b317bc",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "about five minutes :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:06:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bc257333387b4fdd9b8204cb49f06d10",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "we miss anything good?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:07:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4641ae7d21584495b8bfb6d5f4297e9f",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "omg... must have felt terrible",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:07:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "688b4fafc3374b8ebce31858d45687cd",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "no, about the same jonasschnelli did :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:07:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a4bdd363a72d4157b6b54377c1321927",
      "sender": "harding",
      "payload": "FYI,I saw \"hi\" or similar from the following people.  If you're not listed, you might be muted.  meshcollider jnewbery jonasschnelli provoostenator jeremyrubin ariard sipa dongcarl gleb achow101 (and, just now, wumpus).",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:08:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1a122f81e8164cd4853fc48259a01c5a",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "meshcollider: indeed, that's always fun",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:08:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "da39c18fb11e4b85a0b9f45cb5c72cca",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so anyhow, feel free to keep chairing the meeting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:08:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4f4e3eba24e54886b5ee9c96be37fcfd",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "So far no one has any topics",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:09:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bd67b273cd9c4c9b86bb98995ccc31c9",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Looks like non of the high prio PR's are ready to merge,...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:09:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "25f223865ac74c63a56897b49a11a177",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "#proposedmeetingtopic upgrade to C++17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:10:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b984619f226e4bf79f7d6b09bea091d3",
      "sender": "jtimon",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:10:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c843933f8fba4b0881b72518bbbaf58a",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "#topic upgrade to C++17 (dongcarl)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:10:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b2456e7771d142d18af1f56eb58c4211",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "I looked at the history a little, and there was a PR for upgrading to C++14",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:10:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0be69d6ac85d450bb4b29f560a11739e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I think no one was prepared for that one",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:10:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "558000c6241f46909789a54296976088",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "What are the major new features?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:11:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0a8bdeeb559f4bd7ad31b42e1af5c499",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "I believe that 17 has a lot of functionality that would simplify our codebase",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:11:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e6258dd8e860416f8ea5e988695fe21f",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "jeremyrubin: https://github.com/AnthonyCalandra/modern-cpp-features",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:11:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a855ece321dc4148b7741e068d3fc1b0",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "would it replace any boost use?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:11:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9acfcf06d11448c2ac0aed61643d1980",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "wumpus: Yes, I believe we rely on boost::optional",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:11:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c9019f03c6f14bc09139e9873f5f3006",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "what would be minimum supported clang and gcc? which linux distros carry those? what about debian stable?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:12:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "170c75a7e602459eaa2371f3723b6563",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I think we have our own optional<>",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:12:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9f5256c45dd44e318695aa9ba1f222d9",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "but that's not really a big deal",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:12:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d50a0836504d4b4b8221fe80f74428e3",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "our own optional is just a wrapper around boost optional",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:12:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d73f48b5d5e5425abef26d7db70c09a4",
      "sender": "kanzure",
      "payload": "hi",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:12:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3dd4ff9444d04774965a3f01c03a0ced",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "Also c++17 has a filesystem module",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:12:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b5f041b0543b43bfa19755156d861538",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "The minimum for ALL 17 is GCC8",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:13:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "33c4d42d428340a28c07a56164616fb2",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "debian stable is on 8",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:13:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d25ba61fbdd44451b810678c3bb71d81",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "and RHEL dts is on 8",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:13:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c8901209702649dcb12a91dcc1021e47",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "are we going to just skip 14?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:13:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a801dc4d506b44b593255bb0564a16b7",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ubuntu 18.04 still has 7.4.0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:13:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a62f125055f14b7d83c910bd2741322f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ther's no way we're going to do this yet, imo, sorry",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:13:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dd6b6d65e68c4886934e5a05dd6e0112",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "Okay",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:14:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "296c2181924846aea7b516b59340bc6c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "achow101: 14 was not worth it, 17 probably is, but it's imo too early",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:14:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0d4eff893eaa44e486dcbb0d20c8324d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "but others might have other opinions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:14:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0c5fc2361caa4379b82401a2d3c044e5",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "Ubuntu has 8 packaged",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:14:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ae4bbc9402f94685bcc37e8b95f35c13",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "most of gcc 7 has 17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:14:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3be3ffaf7a8349938155f9aceffefb0c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, but the default is 7.4.0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:14:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f87fa945976a4c33be91e49d9824eecd",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "err... gcc 7 has most of 14",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:15:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "02697a9a204d4e24aeaaad6f2df26b66",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I don't really want to cause people trouble for no good reason",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:15:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6ee8957938104549aec5d980fafff53c",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "*17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:15:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5ed1db9769d6488d907a2ee7621fa60a",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "support matrix: https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx-status.html#cxx17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:15:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4d3e5b03e085471d8e298af265578645",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "there doesn't seem to be too much new in 14+17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:15:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1c2b80137a394aea974f7bf7f26f6a21",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "the filesystem module seems compelling tho",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:15:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "27d97bc1bd9f4591a57fa23ef396a507",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "this is the only feature that requires GCC8: http://wg21.link/p0512r0",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:15:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f5202c1d777b4a1ebb1bdd12de7c0939",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "But IIRC wumpus had some work that was replacing the fs module",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:16:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c8139afb4aad42eca13d12ffe71a620d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "has anyone tried replacing boost filesystem with it in our usage? anything missing?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:16:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "675c9aadf5914f2c9e7f8d18228109f1",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "wumpus, any people you are worried about in particular? i'd expect most non-developers to just use binaries and not be affected",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:16:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4895e1eceeae48cd97c33009f847bcb3",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "for a long time we had C++11-minus-thread_local as guideline; perhaps there is something similar for C++17 that would bring the compatibility up?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:16:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "657f3c909f4946008ef59497f60f1b29",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ryanofsky: I'd like bitcoind to be easily buildable on a wide range of systems such as VPSes and such",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:16:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cfb4d3234ab44017a49f3abb73a805b7",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "many people build bitcoin from source",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:16:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3453c91a540c4bddac60f2be57ff5d6d",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i'd like c++17, but not until it's easily supportable on all reasonable systems",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:17:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8506610bdd40483eb927d75192f0d3b9",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "so we are worried about the type of person who knows how to build bitcoin from source, but not how to install an updated compiler",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:17:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8c2ded12306f40c4b30a4d5891c4910b",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "GCC7 has everything but one obscure C++17 feature: https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx-status.html#cxx17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:17:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "49b5d499498a4201bcada84e2069100d",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "What systems are we concerned about?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:17:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "caae30386e6a42cc8785726f4e14c509",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "please, installing an updated compiler can be nasty on some platforms",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:17:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2cff01e4177441659b683cb2adc17712",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "gcc7 as requirement might be ok, but 8 is not",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:18:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "004485ff17204bd89f8e1a72dc8bc0b7",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "wumpus, i guess i'm not aware...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-22T19:18:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b29498bb3d514bfe83d5175f42dcc8f9",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "I'm sorry I misspoke",
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