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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "no proposed topics on the weekly meeting list",
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      "payload": "MarcoFalke: I wasn't here last week to post, but here was my feedback for Github: https://pastebin.com/raw/3PS5rtdN",
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      "payload": "Glad to see you're trying it out, though :)",
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Though I still not fully buying into the concept that a CI configuration should be part of the main repository",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "right, at least we know its limitations now, thanks!",
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      "payload": "cfields: Yeah, I guess in the end we'll go with jonasschnelli's ci",
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      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "fun fact: the ci folder contains 4 mentions of the word \"poop\"",
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      "payload": "jonasschnelli: Why not? travis.yml is part of the main repo",
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Just conceptually I don't understand why the CI configuration needs to be part of the project sources",
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: Because the config needs to be updated atomically with the source code",
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "why?",
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      "id": "8f9c146f22ff42f5b094060450bd6d1d",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Let's say I add a new dependency boost-process, the ci runner needs to install it",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:04:23+00:00"
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      "id": "abe26ef5c3694a298005c845e6ac1240",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Yes. But it could be update in that secondary config file / repository then",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:04:54+00:00"
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      "id": "1d3d6c853fdf4193a099c32454253c46",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "And in the meantime the ci couldn't run?",
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Also you couldn't run it on older branches",
      "action": false,
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      "id": "7b296916d02d43d0b18264ce86f9ad9e",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Maybe...",
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      "id": "2200fe705f9546ffb0bd6e02c97f9c5b",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "It just feels this would not scale with multiple build systems / CI",
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "With the Appvayor, it's already a problem IMO",
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      "id": "4f250ea9ae35469582b3c1414b607623",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "but I'm probably complicating things...",
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "My plan was to only have one place to put the config and have all build systems use that config",
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "I tested it with GitHub CI, Cirrus CI, Travis CI. They all use the same config and it works",
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      "id": "7694902c85f9495d814375c2420ccd9e",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Wouldn't that lead to a monotonic CI/test system?",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:06:57+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "3a23401383ba47e99d8e1fb65edad4e3",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "It includes the whole build matrix. But I agree",
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      "sender": "kanzure",
      "payload": "hi",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:07:28+00:00"
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      "id": "1b2e6163d4eb4ac087775d63c7b65e32",
      "sender": "ryanofsky",
      "payload": "i think it's convenient for things like ci and lint to be in the main repository, it would be a headache to have a change like #16367 that requires a ci update and have to stage it in multiple prs",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:07:33+00:00"
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      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16367 | Multiprocess build support by ryanofsky \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #16367 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:07:36+00:00"
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      "id": "c98df32680d04a38b587a76e6a82c96a",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "My understanding would be, that there are a bunch of test-systems (call it CIs), running aside of our repo...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:07:51+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "d90b5617e93344c8b1cfdc7ec67dec0e",
      "sender": "dongcarl",
      "payload": "enjoyed ryanofsky's fun fact",
      "action": true,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:07:56+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "053a13c2ea70441cb9be527d8841ec53",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "They have all their custom setup to test various configurations",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:08:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "75d754f8bf7143fd9448a283eca81e99",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "I'd like to be able to run CI without Docker at some point...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:08:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c0aad4ce90bd4041ae26ca9d43832ba7",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "If we run the same matrix on all CIs,.. seems a bit pointless",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:08:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3eaec341719246688c019b15921625b7",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: Right. Agree on that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:08:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6b7f1b8cfc00401fa9d54a76e35c8ce1",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "provoostenator: bitcoinbuilds at least runs without docker...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:08:40+00:00"
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      "id": "8adfc51233074666b56cb5f848e315bb",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "It is more a plan to not be married to one CI supplier",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:08:55+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "1f02926d9e8a4cbe9f6d9179043f7b2c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "dongcarl: same :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:08:57+00:00"
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      "id": "90b8d4e1221d4385a724615b81070f4f",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "which is a good point. If we have one CI script that always runs in docker...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:09:04+00:00"
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "provoostenator: jonasschnelli: You can also run ./ci/ without docker",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:09:31+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "81bd51e9554640e8ae6278c7674b0825",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Though that messes up the host (obviously)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:09:38+00:00"
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      "id": "404c6ea0bbf44dcbbde8f3525cb7b8c9",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Okay. Let me continue to think about this... but I see the point of convenience",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:10:10+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "28a85e81593a463789ee69dee32bea4e",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "Right, it would be happy to run just one specifiic host",
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      "id": "24990606174a4066b893759761454d6d",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "E.g. I have a Bionic x86 machine here, or an ARM machine elsewhere.",
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      "id": "c7caba8314a344f28bf9f4217165d67f",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: Yeah let's continue in #bitcoin-builds or in one of my follow up pull requests that I plan to open soon :)",
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
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    },
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      "id": "b3d6a61dc4504c74b79356b49356e8e1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "proposed topic: libsecp256k1 maintenance",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:11:18+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "2d4756700e684d45968bfe231ff1d318",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "#topic libsecp256k1 maintenance (sipa)",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:11:33+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "31b2033bebdf4c83996b0523638e89a8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "so, lately i haven't had too much time to deal with maintaining libsecp256k1",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:12:12+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "3b00721b9da14ae3b631323cf9fd880a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and also the other existing maintainers haven't been active",
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    },
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      "id": "1eb84721a87a4ef4820dbbf92645ea79",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "real_or_random has been pretty active, and i'd like to transition to giving him maintainer rights",
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    },
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "looks at real_or_random",
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      "id": "bf4575923edc4c1e88decd09177634d7",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but i wanted to bring this up here, as the secp256k1 repo is under the bitcoin-core org",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:13:47+00:00"
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      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "I was about to suggest the first one to say a word will become the next maintainer",
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      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:13:48+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "glad I haven't said a word",
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      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "congrats... jonasschnelli ;P",
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    },
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      "id": "e295312849e940098a7361d127b7655a",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "good to hear that real_or_random is volunteering for that position",
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    {
      "id": "1b10ff8728464136a71d52a21c05865d",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "instagibbs: that was just an irc-action.. :P",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:14:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "21b96fd9886144eab384716155a993d2",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I'd like to volunteer but currently, I'm just not able to",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:14:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cd994cf063ee4bebb34e746ae4423378",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "wumpus: We should make a rule that Bitcoin Core maintainers are not allowed to maintain other projects :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:15:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1582ff780d8d4d63b238ddb4ac5c382e",
      "sender": "nickler",
      "payload": "ack real_or_random",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:15:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c735abbdc03248f691a8e5a5053fe24c",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "I think nickler was volunteering too :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2bf13dbfb9944e73b5159e51f991c6ab",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: that's okay with me too :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3934a161e8a54b40975abb7427434f14",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "also ack real_or_random",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1e9834dfa2ee4bb285ece9dbcb132030",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "ack nickler and real_or_random",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e21c8817f1f04cafb4f4efcf7e3bb907",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "*leaves bitcoin core for secp256k1* hehe",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9557b63b289b4dd4abc95678dfd47fb7",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "also ack nickler from me, obviously :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a80230ec052445ab8cce820f51cdb234",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "also ack nickler",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "be7c5123cfcd433b996a2cec42fca700",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "that was easy.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c085de926a0f44818a81f2788d347ed1",
      "sender": "nickler",
      "payload": "I'd be happy to help",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "308c7846bfa84f6c9695bcbb4d369d96",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "should people be removed?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:16:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "946bd96610d947b48d0e58f419e5a1a9",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "or is it just too small a number",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c49beca7d63144afab9fd4e93c428cc9",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "I guess greg and sipa?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "283e0caacb8c469b97573c99242e8f58",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "nickler what's your Github name?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4a2e5d1f68d844dda5eb3b9de939635d",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Fine for me to keep it for now",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a67cb8f9cb4e41de86c5adab061e2f60",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it's andytoshi and me",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e238579c875147f1b12cee122321f970",
      "sender": "nickler",
      "payload": "provoostenator: jonasnick",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e4aaf174bff54437858e8f37c1bda84c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "currently",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "55f483aa50464da4bd8f9624dd599600",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "Ah ok, ACK",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "776566fe087f49c796301cb840ccb4df",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "ok ACK",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:17:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fc88572d64da4825908015a112afb562",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "are you going to add them sipa or should I?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2b6d998869ff44d291d49b81bbac5a5f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i will.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a145a3be8be4434ea8681f705d738a28",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Is it that repo: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1 ?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1bd296bd7f67448fad7b44a8ee4727e2",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "correct",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "77ee87dc016a440c9456f23aeb54b33d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9670232763ee4b669d9e8aabb2579a13",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "I think removing is something that could be done after 1y of inactivity or if someone explicitly wants to be removed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7743e3b1c82b42ee8085675b56cb884b",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "why is the latest merge not signed and done with GitHub?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e7d6c46e33704742a31ba5fcbc7f8c45",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "(ot)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:18:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "043be2a55d434744bc48b5700c3ba3a7",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "valid point... some merge policy would probably be wise",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:19:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "25efef7ef73b4fdc946801c70cc62858",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "we should probably add merge checks in CI just like in bitcoin core itself",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:19:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f32b84385ba742db86e5e6a0658e3d95",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: yeah I think there are a few related issues to  discuss",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:19:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ed819815b3974f25b3126bba2ebf75fc",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "Could reuse some of the Bitcoin Core tools over?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:19:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ae20c3b77dab41bf9c8acdcb36dbe2a7",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:19:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e9439868b58f4e8f9fc15bc8328f2ecc",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "also e.g., I have an open issue about a security.md file",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:19:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e887a62b049f498b996a5412992a8ebf",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "which raises the question who should be in there. secp256k1 maintainers or bitcoin-core maintainers?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:20:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2962ef9acdda48868aa51ddc6258e133",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "has set a bash alias `ghm` for \"github-merge.py\" that works on any repo",
      "action": true,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:20:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "09de943c4c91448c942e19f1f64e827f",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "and we also don't have super clear guidelines for what should be in the repo and what not (e.g., we have the JNI bindings that we may want to remove)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:21:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "51e3a470d1934c12927918d0060d4aef",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we should probably move github-merge.py to maintainer-tools",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:21:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e2973e42a91841e2992f0321ee2eeeed",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "instead of having it in the bitcoin core repository",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:21:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2ee5f572b61f4e53ab50adafad66cda0",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "that way it's much easier to use it for different projects",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:21:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ac57c540feb54e1f8ccfc0f8dee734d1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think that libsecp256k1 issues which don't directly affect bitcoin core can be kept inside the secp256k1 project (bitcoin core has no need for JNI... :p)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:21:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "be6971e7e9f340e585860936b955bf4a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and discussed on the #secp256k1 channel",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:22:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b2ee752b038d4182a4e145c67151f22f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "secp256k1 issues should probably be reported to secp256k1 maintainers, in general",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:22:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b129b5f03a134288b8dd43dbe76a8962",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "agree; though very serious issues that impact bitcoin could of course also be reported to bitcoin core",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:22:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e94ebfeaf27c48af9667b00c5d344bd1",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "wumpus: yes this seems sensible they can escalate to core if necessary",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:23:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3fafd593eb8448d6b07285e903a62532",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: agree on moving over github-merge to maintainer-tools",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:23:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "57f2bf1e7ade4e69990c3444c999804e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i use it for unrelated projects too :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:23:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b66a644ccc394afcace860a24724e30a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, if it affects use in bitcoin, or is even an issue that threatens bitcoin, that seems an exception",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:23:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d8abfd09b361447e9f92b0c49d07bd2d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sipa: ok!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:24:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b56fc519587744f397caba5dfd9545f6",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "ack on a using github-merge and/or related tools",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:24:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b2ebefc8471d4645b4949bb8548d4d36",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "core vendors secp256k1, so the changes need to be accepted there too",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:25:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bd1e567bc41b4d3fa43b4e0809ae07e3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#action move github-merge.py to bitcoin-maintainer-tools repo",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:25:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f6a067eb5bf34ecfb4804951e92f527e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "real_or_random: occasionally we open a PR to core that updates the subtree, summarizing the changes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:25:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f21850226cc74ed49f1ea311d2df19a6",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "but tbh, if we open a large +500/-500 PR from time to time, it's too late to spot weirdnesses",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:25:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "395f07087bdf44f4ad0c47fe81a0865b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah perhaps that's a question whether people here prefer more regular updates of the subtree",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:26:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4238ef0b79af4126ab930e1c58517e30",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "yes, indeed. I think my point is that these tend to get ACKed with the idea in mind that they're fine because they were merged in secp256k1",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:26:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9ac2f88b8fd3489f829c5a52d0784abe",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "it's another opportunity for review, though yes, if it groups too many different things it'll likely not get more than cursory glances",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:26:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "60778a577d954a53bab770c1df406351",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "so it makes sense to have the same careful committing/merging process for secp too",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:27:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "46b39adb2de24453addd9be8f845bd88",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "also a lot of bitcoin core reviewers don't have much knowledge of the details of the cryptography and implementation",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:27:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "244e74595e764b00bb9d63223f0651c0",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:27:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1166547d59ac4a91a370a6c98564f743",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:27:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9f2a19c1188344caba85ab78641b754b",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "sipa: this question is also related to possible releases",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:27:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9979a52e75464d058f5309aef950c6b2",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "AFAIK it was always planned to have releases, we may reconsider that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:28:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b27231dd375b48c68f4c01dec3bceb1e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:28:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4fd9720e8c4340e5bd7b63aa98f55c18",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i guess not everything needs to be resolved in this meeting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:28:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6c88a69b0c06481ca3fac4b30b9f6ac8",
      "sender": "real_or_random",
      "payload": "sure",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:28:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "881e21f86ddb40c9aaf6f7c7c4990ddf",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but it's good to have some communication",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:28:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3d50cf608ee84710852f214e7a25ea7a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, it's fine, it's not like there's other proposed topics for this meeting :) and I don't think sharing a meeting with secp256k1 stuff is that bad so people are aware what is happening there",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:30:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "474f82b63253428bac4b03efc1c49a32",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "high priority for review?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:30:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dd52d44810d14a7e923e687e688d165b",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "oh yes, we could do that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:30:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f7e8dc4c76654f029bed0deda8e74f9e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic High priority for review",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:31:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8958a00c89d449a5aff58bc97655887f",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "an I add #16421 to the list?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:31:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "204773eb3619431abef937860a059c90",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16421 | Conservatively accept RBF bumps bumping one tx at the package limits by TheBlueMatt \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #16421 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:31:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "860655942b314701a164fcf6f1d19ea1",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sure we can always add more, I'm most interested in whether some things are getting ready for merge though :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:31:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "519a18e4a35c4aa592f841d3aa19ce82",
      "sender": "aj",
      "payload": "BlueMatt: fanquake did that already i thought?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:32:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7a7e0111f9834accb920c5a9d7ab4cf1",
      "sender": "jeremyrubin",
      "payload": "correct",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:32:58+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c4e3abb3eda048b7bfbe4e6bfadfa314",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "oh, maybe",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:33:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "914dc729cb124b8dbbdb5f9fd58026da",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "I just want to get it in for .19, and its gotten very little review",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:33:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d57ae563e3f946f29d4907cad0000b4e",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "despite being an incredibly simple pr",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-08-15T19:33:19+00:00"
    },
    {
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