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      "sender": "promag",
      "payload": "I'm waiting for some feedback on 15195",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ah there's also #15368",
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      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "luke-jr: do you have a 32-bit host with rdrand (modern intel/amd cpu running in 32bit mode)? would be nice to test #15250 on that. (doesn't block merge, I guess since it could be fixed before release if there were an issue)",
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      "id": "9354440e57974b4da248a9509a0185cd",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "which already has some ACKs",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: my most recent x86 is Haswell, and it doesn't have a 32-bit chroot at the moment",
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      "id": "aad98b75570840faa831b8c0c2786443",
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      "payload": "gmaxwell: I consider the rdrand one a bugfix not a feature so it doesn't strictly need to be merged tomorrow",
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      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "haswell is ducky and has both rdrand and rdseed IIRC.",
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      "sender": "gmaxwell",
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      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "wumpus: thanks, I agree.",
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      "id": "017eb34050c342a5b31303c7fa843cbe",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "if our static binaries were actually portable, I could have probably tested with those, but.. :/",
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      "payload": "wumpus: would #15402 count as a bugfix?",
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      "payload": "sipa: I guess so",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sipa: it fixes that out of memory issue on reorg right?",
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      "payload": "It should, it's a pretty serious bug.",
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      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "wumpus: on rewind/replay",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:16:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "61d798c5b78443e8b0c21448efc5b494",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so I mean it fixes  #14289",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:16:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ef12afc401ba4535b84400c42a8d33ba",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14289 | Unbounded growth of scheduler queue \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Issue #14289 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:16:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1dbab6e8c2464542987d6c5954c6321d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so it's a fix",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:16:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1322fa3bd9f6437fb065be2753258300",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "added 0.18 milestone",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:16:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0f37befc4ff24474bd26fc15e09a1626",
      "sender": "jamesob",
      "payload": "it doesn't fix the general issue of #14289, just one specific instance right?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:17:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "192772ab1de84be18fc0a2a9132b4737",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14289 | Unbounded growth of scheduler queue \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Issue #14289 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:17:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bf5a940b10f243649559a2b55652d826",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jamesob: indeed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:17:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7a16dfadd6cf429da249f62abed9775f",
      "sender": "jamesob",
      "payload": "intend on building in a SERIAL_SCHEDULER_EXECUTION flag (or something) for use in CI in the next couple days",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:18:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "eff0b1bc3ed5497b8f931fc3241fd333",
      "sender": "jamesob",
      "payload": "(offtopic, sorry)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:18:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a6cc4ab2a0be4d9c8605acd1659dfc85",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic minimum QT version for v0.18 (provoostenator)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:19:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0534c8f91f474ea4ae8fa2dcc879a8b7",
      "sender": "phantomcircuit",
      "payload": "gmaxwell, that cant be checked in a vm?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:19:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2fedbf29b3d546b391883c6182288643",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "phantomcircuit: absolutely can be",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:19:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b69fe81380aa461b8cdfc43a580f3763",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "[19:03:49] <luke-jr> I also don't see where/if anyone done a check for what versions come with current stable distros.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:19:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8c95ad63a2124c728a8cab18b9505f85",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "I tried doing ^ myself, but I couldn't figure out what version RHEL 7 has",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:19:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "90680b160ed84febac95f4a1fe2f33e1",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "I think we should either make Travis test older versions of QT or bump the min version.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:19:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fbcf6cc328ca4c11a21476d0a533e729",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "luke-jr: The benefit is that it is easier to just bump the minimum than to make it compile with 5.2",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:19:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "163ab000812b4f6ea327be1167c0df6f",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "Currently it doesn't even compile in 5.2",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "174e9a7d223748bf8967990ae831e7ff",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "^",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a87f3a0f84e443f5b8515081c2da07a2",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "5.2 is ancient anyway",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bcb0873a289a4f1e8b702a86c4ec8a81",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "but who does this cut off?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0c3355e065d14e05a30a4b7387b6d581",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "what version does RHEL 7 have?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "215968bee33b4e588c045fcf310e13bb",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "If someone wants to build on an acient system with an EOL qt, they are better off with depends",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8bad2ecefa0f4d8b9108ab0559ea8fdc",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "As for stable distros: we can narrow that down to stable distros where the depends system doesn't work?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e42cafc8db5343ce8ddd7c016133b49c",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "RHEL 7 is current",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "55e1629a29d448febc894748b94e8a66",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "didn't we have a discussion about this in a github issue?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "36e69db3f89d4ab6b7089291462e715b",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "68b1e4c68e294b82ad8af3d01a287544",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "provoostenator: depends should not be the norm",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:20:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "963172a10a4e4034bcb57ca7ee546004",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "luke-jr:  rhel7 can use depends",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "22730e4e19b240aeb697d2585bb72db1",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "is there anything new to add to that or is this just another repeat of that?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4a17dbe158c94ef496155e3db784ad1e",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "I think just updating Qt for the sake of updating seems pointless",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1ef05a6efdd64f8b878b9d835a62b388",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "this comes up too often",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0281b9a4804340d79a3a591da7385292",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "What we need is advantages/disadvantage comparison",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fd07d03fcb1a436faa228990ece9f4af",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "updating is fine. cutting off people who reasonably have an old version isn't.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e59049352c99408da654d32f7c1c5c05",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "Hi, sorry im late",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "840e2129ba984626b29366e92a55cf81",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: he isn't updating qt, only changing the minimum requirement in the build system to the actual minimum requirement IIRC",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:21:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5634ef94d7a44b99b70941c16f8b1f79",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: it's not for the sake of updating, it's because we're constantly breaking old versions.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:22:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "35635099587b4969b77f291e08acb95b",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "it doesn't work with qt 5.2, no one is testing it with that, so it's kind of a moot point",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:22:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "46661f87fac74ac3a3e5376583d49594",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "Just pushing to new versions for the sake of updating is a bad pattern.  If there is a problem or a new feature, then great.  Matching minimums to the actual minimums is also good (excepting in cases where we should fix the minimum because we're cutting something out people are currently using)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:22:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3a8010511d9645f9831119deb9d49168",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "no one is updating qt !",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:22:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7dd3d51fb14e498ab79a3917a93f1cab",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "I see. Sorry for the confusion.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:22:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dbefb6e7fd754a839022e080125c45f3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "this isn't the point of tha pr",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:22:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1f63c0527eca4df8a312041c4f5d1660",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#15393 bumps the minimum version checked by the bulid system",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dc7230002e2a4c36b33741755723116d",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15393 | build: Bump minimum Qt version to 5.5.1 by Sjors \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #15393 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2212f721bd1e45a9bd8e03843a04628a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "to the version that we actually require already",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8d30c6c315c84863a931709e713ae3ab",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "the only difference is that configure will show an error now",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1864df87b64f46c2bf1d80ce0a56d876",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Qt 5.6 LTS ends in 2 months... :/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6a81d3fa019e4910bb85526643bbb7a3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "instead of failing later in the build",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "990124622e714d0385561e40a4fb836c",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Whatever minimal Qt support we set, we should make sure its ran in our CI",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "184d508b81df4bc398c26b25ca73b837",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "can someone with a reasonable internet connection download CentOS 7 and find out what version it has? :x",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:23:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6aaea43ad72547d6aed9eb62077dd3b9",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "82405e45c0ff42f48f3b0418db23f225",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "I'm not sure if we should look to deep into all distros...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "837ad2a5d7c24393b768e8bd02640135",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "luke-jr: It is 5.9?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8098208bc0084f9db7c1fa70ff54af78",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/qt5-qtbase-5.9.2-3.el7.x86_64.rpm",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0f033ba4d64f44a3a625158557e01e3c",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "If CentOS uses Qt5.3 which its support has probably been stopped 2 years ago, it's not a pattern to follow",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4642bed837b04c2794c7a64b01bd03e0",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "(assuming)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6b1c833f8d1049b1a234a443d4eecefa",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: not sure why I couldn't find that.. thanks",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "852740fa51f54fe18ba07e2edf707e41",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: is 5.9.2 possible? http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:24:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7e0e7dcf098c4a9abd49f21a606de21e",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "make sense... 5.9 is the one where LTS is at least 1 year",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:25:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "70aaeba5465c449685125856ccffd6f7",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Is rhel7 using the same as centos7?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:25:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3fe4ec7b74674608add577b3d220061a",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "MarcoFalke: CentOS is just a free-of-charge RHEL",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:25:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8077e12185444a3382a7625ef01096df",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "luke-jr: CentOS 7 seems to have QT5.9.2: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:25:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0ff727871c9d4627afe6fe8bb396ce99",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sounds like this is a non-issue then",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:25:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1816456bb8224475a4fa89a48aba75ff",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "(oh, sipa found it)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:25:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "311bade56c6b4ba89deaf4674ec4b47f",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Ok, so it seems we are not cutting off anyone with the bump?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:25:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f14bf8dec85643518d60d8251552f0b3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ok",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:26:41+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "5a216c6582bc4ba48d8036db0b409503",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "We cut off debian 8 which is LTS till 2020",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:26:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b816823de46a4bd7b156d3f5c8b2fc46",
      "sender": "provoostenator",
      "payload": "Cool, let's merge it right now :-P",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:26:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1c710107a0c64d439e49bd92dbd98c53",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "but I guess thats okay",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:26:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4bac817a950e4fdb9c5cc6f698e5f356",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "let's merge it or close it and not talk about this for two years or so",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:27:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e4f962e68920462db9d6ab470ce7f789",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "hehe",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:27:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "46cd122191bb43e7bfb0ef6dc3a03ce1",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "indeed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:27:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b0c83dc8368b4d75800be9aa331bf640",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "Debian 8 is oldstable?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:27:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "94865f36968a4196b5f2bd706580f4f5",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:28:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4066d2463ee94dc0ae208aec24d00c16",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "Debian 8 (\"jessie\") \u00c3\u00a2\u00c2\u0080\u00c2\u0094 obsolete stable release",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:28:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d4f40735b266476e9b09b1308231e273",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "obsolete",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:28:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ec1fa2954ff648cfb5e0208b268d6dd8",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Then, please someone add a debian_8 travis job. Otherwise this will be broken again",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:29:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0c65c81b41bd45afaa79b66614bf655f",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "yes... but we need to expect users run it close to the LTS end... but I'm fine with setting Qt 5.5.1 as min",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:29:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a0caac83c88c4d769a53b806c186a5b5",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I guess it's possible to build through depends still, but we can't support old versions of distributions that are already known to carry old packages forever",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2019-02-14T19:29:28+00:00"
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