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      "payload": "darn, just beat me to it.",
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      "payload": "PSA: we've tagged 0.17.0rc1, let us know if you have any trouble gitian-building due to the upgrade of the guest to Ubuntu 18.04/bionic",
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      "payload": "As mentioned its a bit sad that we dropped debian 9 (newest version) as gitian host,... but apparently compiling lxc was simpler then expected",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "now that 0.17 release cycle is started, it might be time to bring back \"high priority for review\" as a topic",
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      "id": "ea44688a317d4b0e90a65aa4ccc447c8",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we should probably integrate that into the documentation",
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      "payload": "Yes. Until lxc 2.1.1 is supported by debians apt",
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      "payload": "wumpus: did we ever get a solution for making a bionic base VM? :/",
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Works fine here with 2.1.1",
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      "id": "f2b828bb87ec4df5884c9815d82651ad",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "also, with the suite bump, don't forget to do bin/make-base-vm again",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:09:17+00:00"
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      "payload": "luke-jr: I don't think so, I think LXC and Docker are the only options at the moment",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "achow101: last I checked that doesn't work",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: there's a fork of vmbuilder that works for bionic",
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      "payload": "luke-jr: https://github.com/newroco/vmbuilder",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "#link https://github.com/newroco/vmbuilder",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:10:06+00:00"
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      "id": "115f6a730cd444bd8eb6fb786e4bb129",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "but the fork might be worth a try !",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:10:09+00:00"
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      "id": "47b1147791fd496ba55a6809b4929f65",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: see also https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/issues/191",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:10:12+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "44b35ae0560e45f8ab53073556ff72b2",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "anyhow -- please ask in this channel if you have any problems getting gitian running",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8  there's only one PR in there at the moment, #13100",
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    },
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      "sender": "instagibbs",
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13866 | utils: Use _wfopen and _wfreopen on Windows by ken2812221 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13866 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:14:44+00:00"
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      "payload": "13723 added",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:14:48+00:00"
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      "id": "31e54375bf5a4c51af5b3e00cae47a8a",
      "sender": "jtimon",
      "payload": "if high priority is still for blockers, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13311 is kind of a blocker for https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8994 which is itself a blocker for toher things I wanted to do",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:15:33+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "the other two as well",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:15:38+00:00"
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13311 | Dont edit Chainparams after initialization by jtimon \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13311 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
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      "sender": "promag",
      "payload": "wumpus: can you replace 13100 with #13529?",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:16:12+00:00"
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      "id": "56f7cbb3710241a8b94344c9f34e4b7b",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13529 | Use new Qt5 connect syntax by promag \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13529 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:16:14+00:00"
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "promag: ok",
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    },
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "jtimon: added",
      "action": false,
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    },
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      "id": "f2054bbf3f814a819596598bb2b27355",
      "sender": "jtimon",
      "payload": "yeah, thanks",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:17:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "72d9be1faf4e42a38b9e033bc56b039a",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "I would like #12493",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:17:20+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "8807d4006f4549a79da0ff7c1a0f2ca4",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12493 | [wallet] Reopen CDBEnv after encryption instead of shutting down by achow101 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #12493 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:17:22+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "0fc5403b43ea4797a95bdcd0a63b4d18",
      "sender": "promag",
      "payload": "ty",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:17:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a19be56594b94c8f94631b9f3a8ac2e9",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "achow101: ok, yes, probably makes sense to merge that early in the 0.18 cycle",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:17:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "047b7641bc99453897a05b23e48cbf6e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "achow101: it sounds sort of--risky",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:18:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "abdaaf6431b846d3a6331c690e77ecfc",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "achow101: did we ever work through the problems that were preventing \"don't create a wallet until a key is requested or until encryption is added\" ?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:18:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ad37cbdd3c154d8c86ad22ca10a31a3b",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "As that would also get rid of the shutdown on encryption for many users.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:18:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "951d72c18a924e07812e92a8d2ebd91a",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: the problems with that were backups IIRC",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:18:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "604220916125437b96bf3de090fc8324",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: actually that problem was with generate keys on use, not create wallet on use",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:19:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "aaf9307b93114fe584c5aa3b6b48f818",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "in that case, I don't think so. but I also don't remember the problems with create wallet on use. I think I just never got around to implementing it",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:19:59+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "3c96b2aa80ea4cc79223721aee885635",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "right. I thought there were some dumb bugs with create on use that were going to get fixed as a side effect of pending multiwallet work.",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:20:17+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "fc84000f8dc54e26a30e73233c2d34d1",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "any other proposed topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:21:51+00:00"
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      "id": "90e1b0254e454031bb426110f2a98f3e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "short announcement: we're working on an extension to descriptors to support nested and/or/threshold constructions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:23:59+00:00"
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      "id": "df94ca85abe040a583f895734ec16c7b",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "cool!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:25:03+00:00"
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      "id": "21df6e1c9aa94cdab43bbdda3578a219",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "topic suggestion: open floor for people to share what they",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:25:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f2cdc432d5db4138b83643f88c9b3449",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "nice",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:25:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c4132b6136354d1d86adfa9948b6f787",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "re wokring on",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:25:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6515a1b15afd423aba94eb135e77fb02",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "(since we don't have any other topics apparently :P)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:26:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "26ae9432ec934e03b883e7357817dcc6",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i like wok rings",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:26:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5b96b9beb1534260b0c16aaed807ad71",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic open floor for people to share what they are working on",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:26:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ae2a503e156d438581006a66b00c29f9",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "Working on p2p level encryption since a couple of weeks (thats why I'm pretty quite on github). Will open PR in 1-2 weeks.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:26:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "12bcc5e366f24be89c1ba8188bc60dd8",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sipa: so this is for further improvements to scantxoutset I suppose?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:27:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dcb60da2d07c493992ca27fa988b68b1",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: and all the things :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:27:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d6e99814dc02467d8c5ffa757050b7eb",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "right",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:27:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f3fc8b4c5df74e9cb932b041bbc47862",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: so you can import and(xpub/...,or(xpub/...,xpub/...)) into your wallet as watch-only chain for example",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:27:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3f9540806e994e2b8d9959ea60dcc67d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "wumpus: hopefully for eventually a replacement-ish thing to the wallet",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:27:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "82801773932e4d98a0de1f6fee80c02c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and get psbt to sign for it",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:27:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "26555d914039401eb674b969aa6d3470",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "so excite",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:28:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8c04b72120db4f0c8423d72fd6dda911",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "that's neat",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:28:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "919ef11b18044eb882bba61795cb73cd",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "sipa: how would/could that lead to xpub watch only wallets?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:28:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ea556f8bdc9b47e9b046bcbae393d579",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:28:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bd48843941454094985fa64f8cc7418e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "that's the goal of the descriptors",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:29:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "18e782f634ea45f58d390f2fbc3aa0c5",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "achow101, not sure if he was joking, but he said he wouldnt have to implement it if I did the HWI version. I'll keep leaning on him",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:29:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e4efa5e088794c1f9431f3dd5c58212d",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "That would be a great feature... could also be extended to the GUI including coin selection (send screen), but don't sign/broadcast (obviously) but will create a PSBT (file)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:29:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d61af2bd630542c0b4317ed8747a8b5a",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "my guess is for any hope of Core support of HWW, we want to not have to support a bunch of PSBT drivers...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:30:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "41f4b982853044e1be56972cb54cdbcc",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "oh sorry wrong window",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:30:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "95c7f5570ff743ba996511f960a15e6f",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "instagibbs: you mean more support then the PSBT?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:30:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "26be035046734715852f0fa11a405128",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: seems reasonable yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:31:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4502bcc46f104ade837a4564c722ab8c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i need to think through how to integrate things in the wallet itself, so you can import descriptors",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:31:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "56407f0115624d05aeeb33dc66500445",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "and how to make it compatible with all existing RPCs etc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:31:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "023e3f7d90644abf80b179ceb2c93e11",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "sipa: not just and/or/threshold but also CSV and hashlocks?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:32:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cb2056c8d5774d42a7474f502f259c79",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "gmaxwell, yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:32:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f9b674787dbe43f7ad162b030fea91da",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: oh yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:32:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9115db130bad4b55b4ca9727a85138c9",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "(oh rhetorical)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:32:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a209949091e1406c931991f1ab9267ac",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but my goal is that the wallet eventually consists of a bunch of descriptors with metadata (and labels and transactions, and precomputed pubkeys to replace keypools)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:32:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "355e31c084b54fa4b4e9ed039f1a3ba2",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "If lots of people can help sipa finish that work it would be good. :P",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:33:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c68b63edcc90460a8d1f34965bc8b807",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but independently andytoshi and i started looking into how we can efficiently compile arbitrary and/or/k-of-n/locktime/hash expressions to script",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:34:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "da22bf1c7869446a950635220d807667",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "which would just plug into descriptors, and then be available to everything that uses them",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:34:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a783ec0aedaa4ec98717ac3ec59c8dfd",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so I\"ve been working on the RISC-V support, today I was able to do basic bring-up of the hardware (HiFive Unleashed) and test the gitian-built executables, which work!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:36:12+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "c5a4e5ef20104c51a64dcf3a04282729",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "been able to run the test_bitcoin succesfully and sync part of the chain, I'll keep the node running",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:36:28+00:00"
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      "id": "4493d192dd7f433cb0ec4c9633851f86",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "probably the first RISC-V bitcoin node in the world",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:36:34+00:00"
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      "id": "ef8576675b4244cdb23ad55832e6dfe3",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "\\o/ nice!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:37:03+00:00"
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      "id": "f4a4c90634f8499c9014f0222fe00b47",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "nmkgl and I have been working on reconciliation based transaction relay.  (With sipa's help too, that why I want people to help finish the descriptor work, ... :P )",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:37:39+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "da93af79201f4a3a9cdc7bb3fccc8f03",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: as in set reconciliation, eg to sync mempools?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:38:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "569ccb64f222491aad244fc6344bc80b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: yup",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:38:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e8a0bb44ba684e90a7a05ff0609b7ca5",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: Yes, but I believed we found a better design that doesn't sync the mempools directly.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:39:04+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "a15c9da3fb1d41429eab5826132d204c",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "neat, i'd be interested in learning more if you guys have a summary at some point.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:39:46+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "61702e422ba640af8d0f70cbc1b01df5",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: it uses a more computationally expensive set reconcilation protocol than IBLT, but it's much more space efficient",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:39:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c6bb1cef421048da9d94296b36b98896",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "muuuch more.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:40:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "efeac2d4e6e349b9a7cb65d7ef7ea21c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(basically the amount of data transferred is equal to the expected difference between the two sets)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:40:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "db3fe56854b34294b73c132ea550437b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but it's in the order of 40ms here to find 300 differences",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:41:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fe981045708549a08ef4df441a8e2c67",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "I also came up with a new reconcilation protocol with a different performance tradeoff (much faster to decode, but slightly less space efficient), though it doesn't look like we'll have cause to use it.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:41:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3c5af8affd77492996d757d055b8e1c4",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: in any case the short summary of what we're thinking now vs before is that instead of reconciling mempools, reconcile the transactions that the peers would have otherwise INVed to each other.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:42:04+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "461b13a69e3d4b748350ddec20234f18",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "this avoids cases like a mempool policy difference causing transations to get 'stuck' in the difference set forever until they get mined.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:42:42+00:00"
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      "id": "2031ef67f4614810939c7b886c3d86fa",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "oooh nice",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:42:51+00:00"
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      "id": "2d5f0177f7d945cda26703a4af7a5a75",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i missed that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:42:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a4c8d6b0d732413ea1fd91953a401549",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "Then it can just be coupled with some simple mechenism to fast-start an empty or stale mempool.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:43:23+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "2d651990494b43728324f7dce44131ff",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "(I have a proposal for that too, just a simple one/two message protocol)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:43:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0e28b8fbbda143eb9ad60131de3a69ee",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "would this be complementary to a ip-hiding protocol like dandelion?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:44:22+00:00"
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      "id": "20089fcc70254174b59d4fa48bfccc41",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "ah, that sounds neat",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:44:25+00:00"
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      "id": "46d9a8faf8374315876837d976ec26f6",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "hmm, and then you could bucket and do reconciliation slowly for low-feerate buckets, or no reason to do that anymore?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:44:25+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "8bf68137329a44f78f33267a8907f96d",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "instagibbs: I'd presume so, this would be during fluff-faze :p",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:44:46+00:00"
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      "id": "a168ce1c39734b7189c852ddf05aea0a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "instagibbs: yes, orthogonal",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:44:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "179faef12a9c440c8df048fadca8d957",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "this is changing the diffusion phase",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:04+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "77dc3f49d4db4c729a1bb973b5d33c37",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "not the stem",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:06+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "f58c6c6043e44d31913f809174bd37a9",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "BlueMatt, not exactly fluffing anymore :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:09+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "e12d28a6b4a3497e9edcedb9b1833c8b",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "instagibbs: it's orthorgonal, the main motivation is getting rid of the really high bandwidth overhead for rumoring.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:16+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "978c45e5e5f540519fe970f1d96f2847",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "sipa understood",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5388e1fb717347d2a751b1de97a4a64c",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "Probably some differences in context here. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "657ca6eae5e74a3eaf845f525f2ea663",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "Right now, ignoring peers that IBD, the vast majority of node bandwidth is wasted on INV rumoring.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "021f49344b494947813e0cf2f7771d77",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: wait, was that a response to my question?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:45:54+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "4cb7885983794a79abcbee43604042be",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "BlueMatt: sure, it could be split by feerate too, though I'm not sure we'll have a reason to because the reconcilation is so efficient.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:46:30+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "1a6831001601433a804eb71856d850d2",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "hmm, guess I need to think about this more",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:46:52+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "43358b341f354ca4a690f28addaf31f9",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "do you have an estimate on the bandwidth reduction?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:46:54+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "77e32a884da442cf9a380fa78ef29347",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "No, don't have a mature enough simulator yet. Also I haven't measured overheads since we improved inv batching.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:47:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3d40f6c406454f908d4c79a2bb6f8fd5",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "But previously INV overhead was something like 80% of node bandwidth (excluding IBDing peers).",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:49:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b986c9df29df4193b9367f04e3f44411",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "And this should mostly eliminate that overhead.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:49:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ae4de29b27034bb8b99b18a034fcedab",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "looks like we've run out of topics, but not out of time yet",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:52:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e5fe2c105a374f018f8ac10bbeb3eb50",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "In any case, we've been largely off in number theory land optimizing the recon itself... but I think we've got what we need there now. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:52:34+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "10f95004b50844b8b623e60459965239",
      "sender": "sdaftuar",
      "payload": "btw i've been thinking about dandelion recently, trying to work through anti-DoS measures for stem routing",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:53:38+00:00"
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      "id": "86981f57714b4609a5d18c596e0c2693",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "sdaftuar: Good!  This seems to be one of those things that is easy in theory (if either you ignore getting it right or ignore how hard it is to implement) but hard in practice. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:57:17+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "99cf713ebe13462abdcb8df577449259",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "would be good to reduce the DoS surface there, yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T19:57:37+00:00"
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "PLOINKIDOOF",
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      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T20:00:02+00:00"
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#endmeeting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-08-16T20:00:03+00:00"
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