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      "payload": "cfields: your poll made me realise the current time is among the worst possible times for me :P",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "ah, next meeting",
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      "payload": "luke-jr: I wanted to give enough time for people to realize they didn't receive a mail to vote",
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      "payload": "cfield: Can I get an email for voting?",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:03:14+00:00"
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "wumpus: + how many days/weeks?",
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      "id": "b962765b6c0148bd9f29984f414bc6b7",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so the current future freeze is july 16th, which is in a few days",
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      "sender": "jnewbery",
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    {
      "id": "93a19cc5cac842bab28aaef1dc5bfd09",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "also, sorry about not using the more convenient doodle. I figured Cornell would be more polite with everyone's email addresses.",
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    },
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      "id": "2e5755cf7e484ec880c7ea06706ada3b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i would be in favor of delaying slightly, let's say a week",
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      "id": "9b37bf6dcce94fc6a69ed218cd73c4c7",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "I'm in favor of moving since i'd like to get scantxout and disableprivatekey in",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:03:49+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "rwconf is not ready for review yet; I can prioritise it, but unless there's hope for sufficient review before the freeze, I won't",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:03:53+00:00"
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "it would be nice to get psbt (#13557) in for 0.17",
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      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "cfields, what effort was made to reach out to folks who don't attend already, yet contribute in either review or PR?",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:03:58+00:00"
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      "id": "c38d78cef20540ba91a27a2eb91a0e54",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so my question is, should we delay it, are there important things that would otherwise miss but are *almost* ready?",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:03+00:00"
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      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13557 | BIP 174 PSBT Serializations and RPCs by achow101 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13557 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
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    {
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      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "ken2812221: pm me your email?",
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    },
    {
      "id": "d74a538940d44d22b11d5995077ad116",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "the poll as-is will heavily bias current times :)",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:09+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "68c4603ad8704484b51aee2d0465a5ce",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "oh sorry, new topic",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:28+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "25a4336b4cd34ed39bfa1576215cb60f",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "achow101: isn't the BIP still in discussion? Or have we finalized it?",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5ed6857fed3447b2a27a20151c8a0cc4",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "instagibbs: i posted to the mailing list as well. but no further outreach.",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:36+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "fbb769fa38c147bc9da656f1e8a0a8c2",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: it was marked as proposed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0680ccbdd6d84051854f6810829a691e",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wumpus: things can always go into 0.18; my only concern is that the GUI pruning was merged in advance of rwconf",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:44+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "e2855cb1497f4e128c763d5e9dcce98f",
      "sender": "kanzure",
      "payload": "i've answered the poll but i also want to complain about its setup (it's like 500 button clicks to answer the full thing)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b6ea20998b874dcab53072bdc5bde3d8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: so not material changes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c270e8a6e8114f9885953b9ad4b8ae7e",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: spec part is finalized. some wording for clarifications may change, but its basically final",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:04:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cfeb332b2e814f1b9164daeaa8196f88",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "ack... have plans to review #13557",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:05:07+00:00"
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      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13557 | BIP 174 PSBT Serializations and RPCs by achow101 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13557 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:05:16+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "3acf14209b6445238f2aeb2578e2aa65",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "jonasschnelli: beware of unicorns when attempting to review it though",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:05:23+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3467f359b6144a3f9020dfd95591e3d9",
      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "achow101: private browsing help while reviewing. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:05:42+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "2f0aace85e754bf694a328291a75734c",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "kanzure: sorry :(",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:05:47+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "a5ea3f1b595b47d2b956992596dc8ff9",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yes, but doesn't let you comment",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:05:51+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "97823f4eead647ba8d6b65eaefcd76c9",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "kanzure: drag and drop worked best IMO",
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    },
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      "sender": "kanzure",
      "payload": "oh",
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      "id": "070c76ac72304c519cb1243b1082899e",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: would it make sense to put the feature freeze date on or shortly after a weekly meeting?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:06:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "94fdba59d8a94cd8b36e57845a6cd1b6",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "sipa: you can still log in to GitHub when on private browsing",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:07:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d7f687abffe3486e93aa4117c05b6cee",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sipa: possibly, though I don't want to keep moving it forward",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:07:13+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "35e3deda162146c7ac4eb655bceb61f8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: fair",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:07:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "355c195967ae49e8b473d4d6fba6a341",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "meshcollider: heh, i assumed the unicorn was due to being logged in or not; does private browsing itself (regardless of login status) help?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:07:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9545162625014dbcb387521af5403114",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we have time-based releases for a good reason, the idea is not to switch to \"let's decide in the meeting when it's ready\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:08:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3c7099207dc0411bb6a890c7b4fa6086",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "how about moving it to next thursday and try to review things this week?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:08:16+00:00"
    },
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      "sender": "jonasschnelli",
      "payload": "ack",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:08:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "56533a987a8947ebad37d2e10996ddaa",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "that's a 3 day delay; ok",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:08:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c0cff020ffd14a25955e0bc7d7f82f28",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "let's just move it by a week then",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:08:42+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "db577b4c0ce7443da25bda02768deb11",
      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "I think it helps anyway, don't ask me why lol",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:08:49+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "6f047e9645774a22b580a3fd3275a5a7",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "wumpus: ack",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:09:06+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "559bb1b941df467d8d436e4324eeaa95",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so july 23",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:09:07+00:00"
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      "sender": "meshcollider",
      "payload": "Ack for move",
      "action": false,
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "will update #12624",
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      "id": "2365d693878c4668a9f78a6ecb2393a7",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12624 | Release schedule for 0.17.0 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Issue #12624 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:09:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8d61dc62d3f6499e9b3a5caa6c3f90b3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic 0.16.2 (wumpus)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:10:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6af2b60ed9484023bc2baf8a64c21ccf",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "it'd make sense to do a 0.16.2 release soon",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:10:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "639a82cb375d4cd78fdb1ae0bb40f6b0",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:10:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6b8ef9b3c8274eca8d24e1fc9ca4c070",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so it's not too little before 0.17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:10:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0d703badde49443d94f0e6d807857510",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "too short*",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:11:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "06e4f72f72294429bbd27a68c75f6a53",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "anything that really needs to make it in, besides what is already backported in #13644?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:11:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "50d1465f22684299bfffd7827eb6f25b",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "there is already a backports pr for the rest, I think at #13644",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:11:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3583cf9fba7a4a8d8972e39650d28c92",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13644 | 0.16: Remaining backports for 0.16.2 by MarcoFalke \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13644 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:11:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a500f7a231994458a4956cdbf7d595c2",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13644 | 0.16: Remaining backports for 0.16.2 by MarcoFalke \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13644 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:11:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6ae876ac08944f7db0e319e251c8347c",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "tbh, I'd almost think it's preferable to do a bugfix right before the next major release; but no objections either way",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:11:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "04571c65ed3d43cab2791172485b26c3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ok",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:12:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "902d7c61e7ea4eeea64bc35e546804f2",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "(well, right before RC1 anyway)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:12:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c71945fa27ad43988c1720262c7005f2",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "luke-jr: but that way if a backport goes bad, potentially both new versions end up busted :\\",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:12:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a410d56b233e4226965066e6b746e3f7",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "since we're up against rc1 anyway, this timing seems good",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:12:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6411324f07f64b62837074750dacabde",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "I'd rather stagger a bit, generally speaking",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:12:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fb92d0903b01486a8d8f6b879a728fd0",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: true, but hopefully we're more careful than that :x",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:12:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "201b676b064a45be8e878b02cab2ec3d",
      "sender": "instagibbs",
      "payload": "what is 0.16.2 timeline like?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:13:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e697b2c8f6f3436bbb1469d4948ec394",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "instagibbs: once 13644 gets merged, essentially, I think",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:14:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8a00840782b24165acac9eca12348de9",
      "sender": "BlueMatt",
      "payload": "hence the \"anyone have anything else to shove in?\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:14:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3e84b19c4d66472d9493bf1485f79027",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "Yeah. timeline: Backports, merge+test, release",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:14:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "19429affcbe54c68921eb62d379d1e41",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, as no one mentioned anything else it's just 13644",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:14:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dd5d785fc3d44120b8246cd3bd70b4c1",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "make sure you review that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:14:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "84a86208f31d4cfea4c435bfb4de5e80",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "well, we need a rc1 at least I think?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:14:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b289bd1014d0400ea7a264de0d768889",
      "sender": "MarcoFalke",
      "payload": "sure",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:14:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ac3d8d8ca48e4df19daa147d914ee6e6",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, as always",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:15:00+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "343cdee8fde449d9a8a64befcf66ec07",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "rc1 then if no significant bug reports, tag final",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:16:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f9c6661045054dcab9fae43fcfc9ca7d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "usually a week",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:16:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b30456f0e67e41fdb46c74275e10e21e",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic gitian build to 18.04 ubuntu bionic",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:17:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ef5dee2bbc62443ea3c6983fdc0952ee",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "what are the current issues?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:17:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "033fe7819a7b4a1f8c8caabc04e8fb83",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(with upgrading to 18.04)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:17:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e775a0fec67f4801b9ada901ea1e5306",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I merged #13177 today, wondering what the remaining issues are",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:17:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f90ca0427b29441d86ae968c6915b548",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13177 | GCC-7 and glibc-2.27 back compat code by ken2812221 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13177 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:17:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b48b05433c374ae08ecd7ce999f75e2c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "note that we *must* upgrade, otherwise the qt build will fail (or would have to downgrade qt again, which is a mess)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:18:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6a2ad101a5ca4c3d9fe0715b742db8ab",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "did vmbuilder get fixed for 18.04?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:18:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "abd82615a1044263aa019a0933954a25",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "I was in denial that I would have toolchain stuff done in time for 0.17. Sadly it's not happening. Just started having a look at the current PRs.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:18:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "843ca49fb7b94a36a7fcf1ad4d595689",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "IIRC vmbuilder doesn't work with 18.04. or maybe it was vmbuilder doesn't work on 18.04.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:18:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9023d7f49e944e8dbdf3f4e3e5abc83c",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "achow101: I tried it on Gentoo and it couldn't build :/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:18:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f4d68cf4ec964209b3d2eabc68bffbbb",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "so would need to find another way to build 18.04 VMs?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:18:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d8585ac2b2994f628cf64e6425bc6a2a",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:19:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0871971b4eb841acafdbabe08dc854ab",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "or get vmbuilder fixed ideally",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:19:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3787a9a21b684f73a1b6c33941d1f5f4",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "I think vmbuilder is a dead project though",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:19:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "87b53d6ee872419cb3ac4e2b44a8c026",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": ":/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:19:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f4247d0bce024f808c01a15cb831a66d",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "wumpus: hence my docker thing",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:19:29+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b2784f3649234dd2afad226018d935cf",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "is it not possible to just use a static, pre-prepared rootfs?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:19:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "edce95a0f43c49339dd14685dc1c7ac8",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "well, switching to another container shouldn't be necessary",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:19:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "597fdccdf8fe4d95aeaaa09065ba0b4d",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: need a bootloader",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "90b546a069014e3ba43692f9dda25354",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "it's just a matter of building a rootfs",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "394218892d684234aa43966c2d8cf154",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: and who to trust with a rootfs anyway?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a00e5d0dcee44005b0a1d59e5b73f2b5",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "luke-jr: well... ubuntu. currently.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:27+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "db479743270a4316bdc28ca513e4f33d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "you can download pre-made cloud rootfses from ubuntu",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "da80784f6c6e4d198ec846a61ed133f0",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "oh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d97ccaaeec85461599a897f55e28c863",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "(I was just suggesting we use one of their docker images as a rootfs for gitian)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9e57d08b658d4ad298f83a1b2264a407",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "dongcarl: present? you were looking into minimal linux images to bootstrap from?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0d543436f14f4be293ab2efe0cb45daf",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "do they have bootloaders somehow too?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:20:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1566b010ca0843f1b986e4308d15695f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#link https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/current/",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:21:26+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0a6822f7f3e34d9a85cc8fce5b12c8e3",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "is vmbuilder used for both lxc and kvm?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:21:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f0add468d78e4a7da330f5c9701af971",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "luke-jr: tbh I have no idea how bootloaders work for kvm/lxc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:21:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cda2db052b9a44f49eaf4546afb3ecc3",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "(in gitian)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:21:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d7ccc39fe0764ba68d852ee783ba301c",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: for KVM, like real hardware",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:22:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3cac35612aad427681986fdddd93b1de",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "to convert the img to qcow2 for qemu:   qemu-img convert -O qcow2  ${IMAGE} ${VMDIR}/os.img",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:22:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ed6a18bf32e7454baac70c1ef1d24850",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: daily builds? do we retain determinism if people use different builds?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:22:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c7ec653a19b247abab758ad4bdfe8f34",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "I always assumed they just jumped straight into init",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:22:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "58d8d8bca3b34fb0b5e839323df3bfff",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "wonders if these ppc64el rootfs would build identical binaries :D",
      "action": true,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:22:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2a8d7fa18ab242788e41aa373ff5f4e4",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: KVM just virtualized/emulates a real machine",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:22:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f26e648447c6429a9b5de0000d70bc25",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sipa: well it does already do an apt-get upgrade before buildling so I don't know if that matters",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:22:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "10db016a6d094917b331cb198e49a395",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "but yes maybe uncertain...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:23:24+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b56e37a6621b4174a4dc53eccf0cbe9a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "cfields: LXC even skips init afaik",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:23:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4d2727d71ba44fd58020adde9b0d96fa",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "cfields: you just run processes in a namespace that doesn't see the rest of your system",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:23:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "82c98f96bd424342b39f73d43cdb4c44",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "I guess the .img files would have a bootloader probably",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:23:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7ec35a00cd57425daa7641810af7d372",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "sipa: at least with docker, the base ubuntu image changes fairly frequently (within the same version though) and that has produced deterministic binaries for me with different base images",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:01+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bf9899d1ddeb479691bb3520f44ec967",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "right - LXC certainly doesn't need a bootloader",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "89ecc73b501a48a8b2378492dfcd8a32",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "okay",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5778405508d6457a930c55b8afc6e8d8",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: init is a userspace process; you can't skip it :P",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fd6884e4010048ebba79a42f28246ed3",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "I can investigate all this and report back next week",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "574c601a38194b329ff93776e6da846a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: ...?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:31+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ddf800b7d9f24d38acc588e7ddcd46bd",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "as I understand it, basically you just launch *any* exceutable in the container",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:35+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "20a6269d035c4bcb8720e441e8584b81",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "wumpus: yes, that's my understanding",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fcd580ff3ef4430bbc940d8d41f8f045",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: init is what handles all the startup daemons etc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:24:53+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "697652fefede42c19777c2da85488b80",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "this an be init, but it can also be just a shell (fairly sure gitian does the latter)",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:02+00:00"
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      "id": "c662eb172ede487f9cfe7b89d4b811c3",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: there are no startup daemons in gitian",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:10+00:00"
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      "id": "72a0689396ae4eac9f4c29a9308441a5",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "O.o",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f20136afe4614b81b90e70131c551ed0",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "wumpus: I always assumed init was just a thin launcher for whatever binary you're telling it to run",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:17+00:00"
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      "id": "330addf3a6844455b973c81f6f848a1b",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: it simply calls the build script",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:18+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "c7d447ed65904eaf80eb0ae0d39df570",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "there are with KVM ofc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6914f4ec138140ba91c4dfc006bd9c2f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes, I mean with LXC",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:30+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "a3839c2a80834358a2da7966f7d95d8c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "cfields: thanks!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:25:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b6e6389ab55248b8ac286267c82131d5",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "I have a related subtopic, if nothing's queued up next",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:26:14+00:00"
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      "id": "7dfa52ea0e43473cbc5751704dfa1fc4",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I don't have any more topics",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:27:20+00:00"
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      "id": "f25301916c484ef9bdfef410a977539f",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "So, I didn't get the toolchain work done in time for 0.17, but I am nearly finished with the first part: A deterministic, fully static, native x86_64 toolchain capable of rebuilding another native toolchain...",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:27:29+00:00"
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      "id": "77b5592bfa964414abc471a36ebeb7b9",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "that doesn't get us anywhere for 0.17...",
      "action": false,
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      "id": "9c05a45a3ba346c6a0e33d33b5c4f45a",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "for lxc, we don't use vmbuilder, but I'm pretty sure what it does use is not the way to use lxc",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:27:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "51140bd569374387aaa2f3b0ac5f928c",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "it uses debootstrap",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:27:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "fe858061b0fb4def811cd08fd8a613e3",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "but it might be helpful to have at least that much built as part of the 0.17 release process. As with that done deterministically, we wouldn't have to rely on a distro toolchain at all for 0.18.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:28:30+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "aed7446b4f9b453dbb841c0295fdd00f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ah yes debootstrap, that's a good way to build debian rootfs'es",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:28:39+00:00"
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      "id": "65591ad11eef4aaf9f372b7f2e6eccbc",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "so, I'd like to propose possibly adding an extra (optional) gitian descriptor that builders can run as part of the 0.17 release.",
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      "id": "23d42bdc55634e169e5ec29ff2fa6592",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "cfields: so what would that entail for 0.17?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:29:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5df7b1f0542348838ec52899d3b7ba60",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "thoughts?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:29:11+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "ef9f8b8b5561472a84384ecdf0dfbc65",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "cfields: i'm not sure what you're suggesting",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:30:29+00:00"
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      "id": "38b6e7d4e2314250b9da4569ee9377e1",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "achow101: vmbuilder also uses debootstrap internally",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:30:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "90d1cb0fa4de494dad82a521992e37f8",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: is there a way to make this work for non-x86_64?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:31:11+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "a65f76c551344915a19c7a1f4ff0c735",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "cfields: adding an extra gitian descriptor for what?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:32:47+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f0a839c53b9246229eab4807c32d6790",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "sipa: at some point we're going to have to use gitian (or similar) to build all deterministic toolchains. The work isn't done for all toolchains yet, but I do have something working that gets us a native one. I'm proposing that we go ahead and build that one, so that it can later be used to build the rest.",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:32:59+00:00"
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      "id": "e774e73d3b7d4ed6a367b49d2d2d5668",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "cfields: seems fine to me, but it seems independent of release schedule",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:33:31+00:00"
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      "id": "22f749aeb3534d4ab205de6b40f685f9",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "luke-jr: yes, I've just focused on x86_64 as a start",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:33:41+00:00"
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      "id": "06547fea149646d8bedacb0489a57a54",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: x86_64 isn't native for me ;)",
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      "id": "486dcf0329c540c4965ed1e4e124ea8d",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "sipa: indeed, mostly. I just doubt I'll be able to convince a bunch of people to run a gitian build at any other time :p",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:34:02+00:00"
    },
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      "id": "367a8c0974084e84b86a9b7435b5239b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "ah, fair",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:34:17+00:00"
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "is reminded to try a gitian build again",
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      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "cfields: ie, I'm not looking at the target platforms, but the build platform",
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      "id": "c7385e5b4335495b9862f8e01d49b336",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "ok, it's probably not at all clear what I'm getting at. I'll try to get enough together to PR something.",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "ok! thanks in advance",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:36:08+00:00"
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      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "luke-jr: understood. native x86_64 is capable of building a cross-compiler for a new host. We just need one as a start.",
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      "payload": "Ubuntu has ppc64el images; so there's no native x86_64 needed is my point",
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      "payload": "topic proposals?",
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      "id": "49928eb0f3bc4db8a57587ae5bed45d0",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "I guess kallewoof isn't here (timezome) but I wondered what was the status of 12257.",
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      "id": "2b05b4e74a5545c18cb164def95148ef",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "It seems to just be in a rebase rebase cycle.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:40:05+00:00"
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      "payload": "#12257",
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      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12257 | [wallet] Use destination groups instead of coins in coin select by kallewoof \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #12257 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:40:33+00:00"
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      "id": "66713e7ee3ce4c9db9105b62b6af4057",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "it has only one \"light utack\"",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:40:57+00:00"
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      "id": "e8ec8172ca104065836c13182bfcece8",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i held off on it, expecting other more invesive changes to coin selection to go in first",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:41:20+00:00"
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      "id": "ed2b88a0eef54f61aefe4fa0288c1c57",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "sipa: well, they did!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:41:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3e9339300f504b19a66547f62aea37e2",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but if that isn't happening for 0.17, maybe we can do destination groups first",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:41:35+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "92f225c60249414fbf2e01428d5e6497",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "and a \"code review ack\" but with comments",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:41:39+00:00"
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      "id": "96730158eb91400cafc2c79128a5da3b",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "(I mean things like BNB got done since that was open)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:41:45+00:00"
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      "id": "15f3880e581045deb687d57a926aeb5f",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: sipa srd fallback is more invasive and probably won't make 0.17",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:42:12+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "8814819cadc7482fae9324fbe7fcacda",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "yeah",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:42:23+00:00"
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    {
      "id": "c382e628b5a446869d59e5fc22b9d297",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "one of my thougts is that this kind of behavior might makes things like SRD easier to do, from a \"impact on the UTXO set\" perspective, as it'll cause more utxo consolidation at least for users tha reused.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:43:06+00:00"
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      "id": "c5ebfefedc7d44d3a702b12ec97dd457",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: perhaps. I can try a siulation of srd on top of 12257",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:44:14+00:00"
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      "id": "a3f1ecbfef3144c494488e4ad1a5bd55",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "In any case, I just wondered where it was standing, I guess its state is \"people need to be nagged to review it\". I'm not sure if it's a candidate to go in before the freeze.",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:44:21+00:00"
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "achow101: that would be useful",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:44:22+00:00"
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      "id": "f812fe94c3a24f2682baa4945592e302",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "achow101: would be interesting, but I expect the benefit to be highly usage-pattern dependant. (e.g. this does nothing if you never reuse)",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:44:49+00:00"
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      "id": "44766f133d044abeb5cbe3397a7fbd99",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "no opinion of whether it should go into 0.17, but I think it could just as well be called a fix as a feature",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:45:23+00:00"
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      "id": "126f74386d59484b9fde88750c7bee47",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "I also agree that it's a (privacy) fix.",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:45:56+00:00"
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      "id": "ffa651abbf954c3993fc30d37257a899",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it's an obvious improvement for sure",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:46:18+00:00"
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      "id": "5a3422f3e09649b2b93ecb0100e92b5b",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "in any case, I hit the PR accidentally, I'd forgotten about it, sounds like some of the rest of us did to. I'll give it a review. (or try, wallet stuff isn't my strongest point :) )",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:46:35+00:00"
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      "id": "78f700b48b1741d3a0febc9be3c24288",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "I don't agree it's a fix, since it only affects people doing things with undefined behaviour; but it seems harmless enough",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:46:37+00:00"
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      "id": "6569f7851159424a8134fa0bd94569b2",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "luke-jr: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3318  I see an address there, and it's been paid mannny times. :P so seems like it might help you personally.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:48:26+00:00"
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      "id": "11a23063c2024e8989fbdca2e543c157",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "also the behavioural changes can be made a no-op pretty trivially",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:48:31+00:00"
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      "id": "a36dcaa8689943899e147394d999ee5e",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "ie, we could merge it before the freeze, and trivially revert the behaviour if a problem is found",
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      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:49:01+00:00"
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      "id": "c1b83cc8fe2748abbb7773c11789dfad",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "Right, it's also very unagressive by default. E.g. won't pay extra fees to achieve its end.. which sounded reasonable to me for an initial deployment.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:49:44+00:00"
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      "id": "05741ea52ef94a598e216df4a3376ff8",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "I'd hope in the future we'd let it pay more in fees, esp if we have a mechnism to estimate if fees are historically high or low.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:50:21+00:00"
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      "id": "0db0d182494448aa804c873c7af90e6e",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "but getting to that future requires getting the basic functionality in. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:50:39+00:00"
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      "id": "f1580e41c28a42338d7ad72e395536a3",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "FWIW, I have read through the code at least once; just not in enough detail I'd felt comfortable ACKing",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:50:46+00:00"
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      "id": "6ea4b67bb91b4a61b948432027e7a66e",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "Okay, I think this topic is done... Consider yourselves reminded. I'm glad to know there wasn't some other blocker.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:51:23+00:00"
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      "id": "3a5e8742eb354536bb389a08f99d8822",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "any other topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:51:59+00:00"
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      "id": "36615232d6a14e6e932f9315fbcf1285",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "[META] Perhaps we should have a standing item to load up the PR list for regular contribtors who aren't at the meeting to make sure we're not forgetting their PRs.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:52:11+00:00"
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      "id": "ccc6fccfc3644d72a379ffcda6927c0f",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "I see also that there are some jl2012 PRs languishing that I'll probably talk to pieter about outside of the meeting.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:52:39+00:00"
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      "id": "8aaea18557cf448f83f1d769d489eb6f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "well I've intentially skipped high priority for review this time, seems it's pretty clear, just need to get the features for 0.17 in asap",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:53:10+00:00"
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      "id": "905b2f4453a04d9aa289f20f564ecf5a",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "yea, I meant that as a long term thing.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-07-12T19:53:23+00:00"
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "right, I agree then",
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      "payload": "#endmeeting",
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