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      "payload": "yes. will take care. had some busy days but will work on it next week",
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      "payload": "ok, thanks for letting me know",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#13062 I already reviewed a while ago, though it's been needed to rebase since",
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      "payload": "is there some reason we went from single-value args + multi-value args to override-args + config-args? the former seems a lot better..",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I'll take that as a topic suggestion",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "achow101: any idea what's needed to move forward there?",
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      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "Is 13191 waiting on my review and testing?",
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      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:14:06+00:00"
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "wumpus: more review",
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      "payload": "achow101: just review? ok",
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      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "wumpus: perhaps on the bip itself too",
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      "id": "85c96bbb12604f9a955f7e025ddef7ba",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i've also been discussion some ideas for splitting part of it up",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: #13191 is already merged, but you're very welcome to test and review it anyhow",
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      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "sipa: that's a good idea, I think, just to have progress",
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      "id": "1debe1cf2c474623813335f159b54dac",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "better to make sure as many as possible non-controversial things already merged",
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      "payload": "wumpus: lol. sorry, I had an old page up and on reload the post merge discussion caused me to miss that it was merged. :P",
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      "id": "c1d208141c2f43529c4cccc8862d4cf6",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "So I was confused as to why it wasn't merged yet.",
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      "payload": "gmaxwell: hehe",
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      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "there are a few more specialized-instructions-optimized-code PRs open",
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      "payload": "we discovered yesterday that compiling the sse4 intrinsics code with -mavx gives a 30% speedup",
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      "payload": "#13111 should be pretty close, I guess it's just a boring thing to manually test because it unloads",
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      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "sipa: how much work do you think it would be to switch the sse41 to intrinsics?",
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      "sender": "promag",
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      "payload": "promag: I will",
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      "payload": "cfields: i can try, but it's low priority for me",
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      "payload": "sipa: yes, that was really neat",
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      "id": "c92fa3c2844f42e8af60ef8b5f85fec6",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "(based on the mavx result suggests to me that the compiler is failing to achieve a good register allocation that doesn't kill performance)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:19:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7beefa26bbb84416a67aad359400563b",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "30%.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:19:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9fe074f9a7744d76a0dde6369638896d",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "(so i know whether to take the bet or not)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:19:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cda63db52155436183e4415e8751279f",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "nah, no way it's 30% slower with intrinsics :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:19:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "31ec5fa677b9402ba188a768c7b744e4",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I supose it's only boatloads slower on my stupid AMD system :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:20:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b94e09e81e9d4cefbd59a3ed9d03f3de",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "sipa: ok, I'll look around for an impl on the net to copy from. I doubt I'd fare well myself, though :(",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:20:41+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "629d898280b3427b9712551a9b4cccae",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "cfields: the asm code we have is derived from nasm code that's more readable",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:21:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "bb37c84ff1b34d2db86c550ea31b257c",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "that may help",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:21:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "8265fb9ec7634fde8d9d05822bb5591a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "but anyhow if anyone needs benchmarking of anything on AMD, just let me know",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:21:13+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3e5b771b9137490b932de3c182a1525a",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "ok",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:21:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c70d38ebb26f4c969a0a77d6b7a8fe36",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "wumpus: I'd prefer to merge before getting the AMD numbers :p",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:21:30+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "9677d86a3b78405084788f5c5f128df1",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "cfields: I understand :p",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:21:51+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e389329725d3444da3bba95c7f7aa505",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "wumpus: have you seen if the mavx compiled SSE4 code is slower on your system? I wouldn't expect it to be.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:22:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "27780206ab1c47a18d7c411acdb26d49",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "too bad I seem to collect them",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:22:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6efb5c347dd34028a1e87f6f497e0bdf",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: iirc he benched those and it was ~the same.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:23:18+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d7490cf96b2e401a95b7b9fd1d481732",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: there was almost no difference with avx here",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:23:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3ab44d6b0d6249619d92181bac2f9ad7",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "it was very slightly faster",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:23:44+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "6295b278276349c39a3f9b74ed35eded",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "odd.",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:23:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "68aa43aa6ef344fb842cb2f8581406bf",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "looks like they go in to some emulation mode",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:24:03+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1061ba81dc554ca4be8311c9454be7d9",
      "sender": "cfields",
      "payload": "right: https://0bin.net/paste/ReThQTAAWhKYfH7x#K99wDsZBBbtqEnc1N44e9UWz2E-t1y2jDhByhD8BBZe",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:24:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f8383e499a1e4fbca0b1798b9ff1a374",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "(odd because my understanding was that the 30% speedup from getting better register space, not from using any AVX instructions...)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:24:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ac5b3be437f6437e8dd34e83a11d81f5",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: in AVX mode there literally is 2x more register space",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:24:52+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ac44a6b6ebf44117902248711ab75318",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but maybe that's not the reason for the speedup, i haven't analysed",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:25:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d243dc33987d48d1b7ee4d457c892af5",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "still, i would be very surprised if equivalent code with intrinsics rather than asm is more than a few % slower",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:25:28+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "80873bc8e1ba4abeb29217027eb58772",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "We can take this discussion offline, but I don't completely agree. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:25:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1aa5df1587e54727a14bc494be98b9fa",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "ok!",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:25:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "759ff6af6ee44e8685c8768f02168dc9",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "intrinsics should do very well, with modern SIMD instruction sets",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:25:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5f06bdfc491f405384bfd0537615242b",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "(they're pretty much designed to work well with them)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:26:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f02c51dddbee49a9a28a3d23c143294c",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "but yes, it's getting a bit off topic",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:26:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3bb18e2e11c94466aaf6255f1a2bd528",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#topic single-value args + multi-value args to override-args + config-args? (luke-jr)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:26:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "74eb4586d9d54be3bff4679d0331738b",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "luke-jr: elaborate",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:26:55+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1991dfacc31746979cfd45113d91c3a3",
      "sender": "gmaxwell",
      "payload": "I have cached skeptcisism mostly because compilers used to be VERY bad with register allocations for SIMD, resulting in a lot of code that is more complex than 'run this code 4x in parallel' not getting a speedup when hand asm hapily got a 3x speedup. I know they're much better now. So perhaps ignore me. :)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:27:08+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "cb3ec2f516f443b8896af6b7819780fe",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "we used to have a map of arg name -> single value and arg name -> multiple values",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:27:21+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "dd7c817ccb8049d3a9344e8df71568ee",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "it's been changed to arg name-> multiple values, but with two maps, one for config file, and one for command line options",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:28:04+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "c2160a747ce84bbd8094a6d98b5ca43d",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "it seems better to have config/commandline share maps",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:28:36+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1026e36f2f4e483490e81e7f38af0137",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: compilers seem to have become better with that, but I understand your skepticism",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:28:37+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "335e8b2758354205a1fd2cd56316bb83",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "gmaxwell: there's also the *optimizing for a specific CPU type* versus *optimizing it to be, on average, fast, for many families of CPUs* thing",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:29:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "263f278f13344b9d8a71cc3bcafbd4c6",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "this comes up because the change complicates how to implement rwconf",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:29:33+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "097292b6d2fa456e8abd09baf80c9a20",
      "sender": "achow101",
      "payload": "luke-jr: I think that change may be for qt settings interactions",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:30:40+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0e01cc10098740de9ac00fe415b28a3a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: I'm not sure I know enough about this to understand the implications of this in practice",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:30:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d57fe0b93ff64c098e728cccfe26db78",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "luke-jr: it was changed in #11862",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:30:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1f0de2d80c8f4ba4916af55d73dfcac7",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11862 | Network specific conf sections by ajtowns \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #11862 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:31:02+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "26e739990c0944598d48e55f0090866f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "whatever you do, please don't mess up the bitcoin-qt initialization order, the rest is fine with me :p",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:31:38+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "513da88389674331b501cf03399ba2ca",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i think it would also be useful to make the arg information know whether a particular argument is single-value or multi-value",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:31:56+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "42c5ca8b59584268aa9fd0150839063a",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "rather than have that information be at query time",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:32:16+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "79ba1c76749a4bd1befd162149474e01",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "but i also don't understand the interactions well enough",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:32:39+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a40db24588b047998bf3d1f4f7119264",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "aj: you here?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:32:42+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "969c550e786c4acbb46ea814d9ba1849",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sipa: yes, I was thinking about that too",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:32:43+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d4f3c87e2b0e46859c7c60b961f7155d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "#13389 kind of scared me",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:32:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "730c096769ac4876994f987b08cdf019",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13389 | Utils and libraries: Fix #13371 - move umask operation earlier in AppInit() by n2yen \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13389 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:32:50+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "441fbe1eae6248acbd37bdb171dea4d3",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "the reason they're split one way or the other, is because the last command line option overrides the former ones, and the earlier config file overrides the later ones",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:33:25+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1a7dda6ac7174f2ea37d18a79152f54d",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "we don't have good tests for half of this stuff",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:33:45+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "42ca33f9b33e46e8bc2fbf68ba35ae75",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "so now when we do Get*Arg, the code is going for the end of the command line list, then the start of the config file list",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:33:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "7899f6685e944beeb9333ae6dd9b39a4",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "(the altnerative being, to just parse into a single value at startup, and just access that map at runtime)",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:34:22+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4cd1f4b9f9c04e44a98c422a6dc897dd",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "i feel like the right people aren't here to discuss that",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:35:48+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "ade2e1caaa2647469db77db9643bce2a",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "yes",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:35:57+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "85c734e00b6944bc90bfd2fc7c6f8b9f",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "maybe",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:35:59+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "f369779c779743cabd986422884fa2ce",
      "sender": "sipa",
      "payload": "it sounds reasonable what you're saying, but i don't know enough to really comment",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:36:06+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "5aa5cbbc332d4821939af472be75a510",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "I agree",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:36:32+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "0d5ee7b7aabc4a99933535c7957bd996",
      "sender": "jnewbery",
      "payload": "There's a lot of discussion and review in both #12878 and #11862. AJ also added really good code coverage in those PRs, so it should be pretty straightforward to follow",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:37:11+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "20001435a396474d9af93932e1bbfe56",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "other topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:37:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "3a8345a412ff4af3bab20be3dcdbaeab",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12878 | [refactor] Config handling refactoring in preparation for network-specific sections by ajtowns \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #12878 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:37:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "172040ac878b4de999c5e8dee09e9700",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11862 | Network specific conf sections by ajtowns \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #11862 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:37:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "19274d32e663439e9d655ed8e3c59319",
      "sender": "promag",
      "payload": "it also sounds reasonable to encapsulate the arg chaining in a map lookup lookalike",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:37:20+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "50350a5392c445f29156111da2e15c20",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "meh",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:38:49+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "d8ca23fa8b814ff3aa1fc41cff4b11be",
      "sender": "luke-jr",
      "payload": "sounds like either way I should start with tests",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:39:07+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "2565c6a5c5f6466d8af596d1ea651aa7",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "personally I prefer method calls to just look like method calls, not operator overrides, in the common case",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:39:15+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "1dd271975cfa4025947c57e3e9a822db",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "luke-jr: yes! tests are always good",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:40:05+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "966f286c174340c99e5718d5068621f0",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "other topics?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:41:54+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "a1d7a79a5412418cbcd0672318677beb",
      "sender": "promag",
      "payload": "actually I have a question",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:42:34+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "b07f3c991d214af1903d4eee084d0e65",
      "sender": "promag",
      "payload": "#13374 and #13375",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:43:10+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "710727910b0d49b9a43d5b507fe01461",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13374 | utils and libraries: checking for bitcoin address in translations by kaplanmaxe \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13374 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:43:12+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "870729d7321b45fdb8fe04bf09f7346f",
      "sender": "gribble",
      "payload": "https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13375 | utils and libraries: address check in update-translations.py by undercoverGod \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 Pull Request #13375 \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 bitcoin/bitcoin \u00c3\u0082\u00c2\u00b7 GitHub",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:43:14+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "4a9ec9849c0a42e18d3b261ba5ee6d91",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "if you have a topic, just propose it, there's no need to tell that you have a question",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:43:17+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e6346e23c7fc42ab8e4528a9e30fd199",
      "sender": "promag",
      "payload": "they are the same, why isn't one closed?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:43:46+00:00"
    },
    {
      "id": "e622e5ff64c24de282bcea454aff477f",
      "sender": "wumpus",
      "payload": "because no one told me (or fanquake, or anyone) to?",
      "action": false,
      "timestamp": "2018-06-07T19:44:18+00:00"
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